friedah03:
Welcome to #SocPharm tweet chat. I’m Frieda Hernandez from Siren Interactive. Interested in all things pharma social media #socpharm
friedah03:
Having some trouble with Tweetdeck tonight. Please introduce yourselves and state your interests #socpharm #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
Michael Spitz, Senior Digital Strategist with Ignite Health, a full-service healthcare communications company #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
Twitter has been acting up the last couple hours, might be difficult to have engaging dialogue this evening #socpharm
friedah03:
Welcome@SpitzStrategy. So I see but we’ll give it a shot. Tweetchat.com is working better for me than Tweetdeck #socpharm
Jeff_Greene:
#socpharm Jeff Greene (also tweeting under @healtheddigital) – interested in innovations around digital patient support and outcomes.
ellenhoenig:
Ellen Hoenig, strategy and mktg consultant w healthcare and patient focus…joining for first 1/2 hour…#socpharm
friedah03:
Thanks @Jeff_Greene & @ellenhoenig and welcome. We will assume all comments are personal POVs unless stated otherwise #socpharm
friedah03:
@a0k suggested Topic1: How are brands using #Sermo, @Ozmosis, & @Medscape to build relationships w/HCPs? #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
Sponsored discussions, for starters — seeded topics addressing clinical issues that drive back to the brands #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
Other clients are using Medscape for sponsored areas addressing treatment options and diagnostic info, pointing back to brands #socpharm
Jeff_Greene:
@friedah03 Hi – and thanks! #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
For example, oncology lends itself to diagnostic techniques and biomarkers that suggest certain therapies #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
HCPs connect to medical topics, and KOL discussions — often an expert will be asked to present on a topic #socpharm
friedah03:
@SpitzStrategy Any insights/experiences you can share about effectiveness? (blinded of course) #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
HCPs are interested in the latest research, and the supporting data to substantiate claims and treatment decisions #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
Generally good — when HCPs start discussing a topic, their engagement levels proportionately rise #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
But HCPs are an opinionated lot, and dissent is common, even for established regimens, which can make things complex for marketers #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
Transparency is important, too — the most “unbranded” discussion, if led by a pharma, should be overt regarding intent #socpharm
friedah03:
T1: #Sermo, @Ozmosis, & @Medscape – What results are brands seeing from these HCP channels? #socpharm
A0K:
@SpitzStrategy ooh this was my topic I think! I spoke to @jackbilson3 about @QuantiaMD today. Very impressed. Considering it srsly #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
We’ve entered the era where patient targeting is increasingly significant — so patient identification and case studies reign #socpharm
friedah03:
Hi @A0K, Thanks for joining. What impressed you about @QuantiaMD? #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
I can say with some confidence that Medscape has gotten significant traction, at least in terms of pharma involvement #socpharm
friedah03:
@SpitzStrategy Do you think that online discussions mitigate more opinionated HCPs from dominating discussion or vice versa? #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
Yes, tell us about @QuantiaMD, we have yet to work with them #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
@friendah03 Good question! Type A HCPs do have a tendency to dominate, but most are fairly well behaved on the boards #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
HCPs engaging in discussions are interested in expressing themselves — but also learning about new therapeutic options #socpharm
Jeff_Greene:
What’s QuantiaMD? That’s new to me. RT @friedah03 Hi @A0K, Thanks for joining. What impressed you about @QuantiaMD? #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
In disciplines such as oncology, physicians are constantly seeking insights regarding combination therapies and even off label use #socpharm
friedah03:
@SpitzStrategy T1:Medscape certainly gets the eyeballs. Is it targeted enough and affordable for smaller brands/disease states? #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
That’s part of the danger, too — when sponsored discussions veer tangential #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
New to me as well! https://secure.quantiamd.com/ #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
@friedah03: Targeting is a problem for Medscape, but budget is an even bigger concern, as positioning can get very pricey #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
As pipelines dwindle, pharma must adjust away from blockbusters to niche and orphan drugs, with smaller target audiences, too #socpharm
richmeyer:
Medscape can BE very expensive because they know they are only game in town #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
I bet we’ll see a shift from the larger, pricier campaigns and online strategies to a more affordable, targeted approach #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
The digital world lends itself well to audience segmentation — that can work for HCP audiences on these forums, as well #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
On the patient side WebMD is the behemoth — very low engagement there, unless sponsored by major OTC meds #socpharm
richmeyer:
@SpitzStrategy And Web MD is very expensive and does not want to ensure metrics #socpharm
friedah03:
T1: Recent article on the various HCP communities http://bit.ly/bDO4gT #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
Fragmentation continues at a high rate, though — jury’s still out on the big platforms like Medscape/WebMD continuing to thrive #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
@richmeyer Exactly right on the metrics issue! Our clients complain frequently #socpharm
ellenhoenig:
WebMD also very pricey ! @SpitzStrategy: On the patient side WebMD is the behemoth — very low engagement there, unless … #socpharm
friedah03:
T1: With increased emphasis on targeting and metrics, does it create an opportunity for smaller players to challenge? #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
July 15? Long time ago in the digital world!
#socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
But points well taken and accurate — the real question isn’t if they’ll play, but where and how? #socpharm
stevemassi:
Hello all. Has anyone used epocrates in the mobile space? #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
@friedah03 You need participatory critical mass; HCPs are busy, and they mass together, usually led by an opinion leader #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
Engagement with high profile key opinion leaders within disease states gains credibility and gets the herd to follow #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
@stevemassi Do HCPs chat with each other through mobile? We see them primarily using apps and ePoc for POC decision making #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
Emergency room docs have led the mobile charge — many lurk on their home PCs after shifts #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
By “used” Epocrates do you mean market within it? #socpharm
stevemassi:
@SpitzStrategy as far as I know, peer to peer is not an offering from ePoc #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
Marketing within Epocrates is tricky, because POC resources can be highly specific and actionable — where to position content? #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
@stevemassi Right, that’s what I figured — the thread began as a peer-to-peer discussion #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
I was a writer and eCommerce guy at PEPID for a while, several rungs below ePocrates, but in the same space #socpharm
stevemassi:
@SpitzStrategy By use, yes I mean market within any of their offerings: contact mgr, esampling, edetail, doc alerts #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
Smartphones have revolutionized POC data for HCPs — the “skyscape’s” the limit! #socpharm
friedah03:
Since we focus on #raredisease at Siren, we’re testing/seeking HCP channels that can target niche specialists. Not easy to find. #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
Dabbling in that space, as branded content gets tricky #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
@friedah03 Agreed! You need sufficient critical mass to participate, but many channels are too narrow to bring ROI #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
Personally, I think hospitals and advocacy organizations have great potential for HCP peer-to-peer online engagment #socpharm
pharmedguy:
RT @friedah03: T1: Recent article on the various HCP communities http://bit.ly/bDO4gT #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
Pharma can’t and problably shouldn’t drive the discussion — but supplement it and provide meaningful information about molecules #socpharm
friedah03:
T1: Does PI’s combination of services offer any advantages http://bit.ly/bazRgV? #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
Pharma is still not sure how it could and should play in these discussions — definitely a work in progress #socpharm
friedah03:
@pharmedguy welcome to #socpharm
Jeff_Greene:
#socpharm Any thoughts about Within3? They seem to have a strong offering.
SpitzStrategy:
The developer of a molecule has a storehouse of data — but the HCPs are actually in the field developing treatment insights #socpharm
stevemassi:
How’s the feeling of pharma providing the platform for specialty hcp SNs, and acting as facilitator? #socpharm
A0K:
@Jeff_Greene @friedah03v @QuantiaMD is leading hcp-to-hcp learning collaborative +unlike others it’s #mobile native/ tech agnostic #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
@stevemassi Facilitator role for pharma is sound; also as expert consultant; but the HCPs should own and drive the conversation #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
Fully transparent, open-ended, and patient-focused discussions with subject matter experts (including pharma) are the way to go #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
Jeff_Greene Within3 looks promising — any insights you can share? #socpharm
friedah03:
RT @A0K: @Jeff_Greene @QuantiaMD is leading hcp-to-hcp learning collaborative +unlike others its #mobile native/ tech agnostice #socpharm
stevemassi:
@SpitzStrategy Agree. How do you feel HCPs would engage if they knew the platform was built by pharma? #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
@stevemassi Pharma would have to be completely transparent, and utilize an objective, impartial guide or facilitator #socpharm
friedah03:
@A0K re: @QuantiaMD How does pharma sponsor, participate? What is the bus model? #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
Pharma also needs to characterize its role as subject matter expert of the molecule, and toss the ball back into the HCP court #socpharm
A0K:
@jeff_greene to me @Within3 is too salesy & unrealistic. Why don’t agencies put content on existing platforms w/ lots of users? #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
We’ve conducted market research in the States and Europe, and HCPs respect pharma so long as they provide worthwhile resources #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
“What value are you providing?” ask the HCPs — usually that has to do with clinical studies, journal papers, and raw data #socpharm
friedah03:
@stevemassi Within 3 has several different models for pharma (ad boards, investigators) or medical associations (virtual conf) #socpharm
nicoleljohnson:
@SpitzStrategy Hey Spitz. Great tweets from #socpharm. Are there any presentations up w/ these mobile stats? Cheers.
SpitzStrategy:
“Show me the data!” is what HCPs want; pharma is in a good position to provide it — and the forums for open, patient-focused talk #socpharm
friedah03:
Welcome @nicoleljohnson #socpharm
eHealthStrat:
RT @SpitzStrategy Transparent, open-ended, & patient-focused discussions w/ subject matter experts (including pharma) way to go #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
@nicoleljohnson Mobile stats abound! Recent Nielsen study, plus results from the EU #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
The other “no no” is presentation — HCPs do not want to be “marketed to” — more clinical and raw the feel, the better! #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
Pharma should sponsor platforms and provide data — then step back and let the HCPs do what they do best #socpharm
friedah03:
Unfortunately we’ve come to the end of our time though delayed by Twitter issues. See you next Wed at usual time 8 pm EST. #socpharm
Jeff_Greene:
@SpitzStrategy #socpharm My take on Within3 is they want to be a network of niche Sermos. If growth continues they’ll have compelling depth.
SpitzStrategy:
“Give us the tools we need to succeed!” is the HCP mantra — pharma can do just that, and let the data speak for itself #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
Thanks to @friedah03 for moderating a terrific tweet up! #socpharm
Jeff_Greene:
#socpharm Thanks all for 2nite. Quantia an interesting takeaway. See, I always learn something on Twitter.
SpitzStrategy:
Yes, me too — Quantia and Within3 worthy of note and further investigation #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
Always good to stir up @richmeyer too! #socpharm
pharmedguy:
@friedah03 How do I join in #socpharm next Wed? Any instructions? Thanks.
friedah03:
Thanks @SpitzStrategy @Jeff_Greene @nicoleljohnson @A0K @richmeyer @stevemassi@ellenhoenig @pharmedguy for a great discussion #socpharm
stevemassi:
Thanks all #socpharm
friedah03:
@pharmedguy I will post the transcript to the SocPharm ning network http://bit.ly/aYjN2O. Please join! #socpharm
friedah03:
@pharmedguy My Bad! Here’s the correct link for info on joining SocPharm tweetchathttp://bit.ly/dwiGKPRT #socpharm

