pharmalot:
We’ll assume that all tweets within #socpharm are your own and not your employers (unless you specifically declare them).
pharmalot:
For those who weren’t aware, your moderator this evening is Ed Silverman from Pharmalot #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Big thanks to @pharmalot: for guest moderating #socpharm tonight. I’m sure he has some good topics for conversation.
Gigi_Peterkin:
weds at 8pm – time for #socpharm
soulflsepulcher:
. @pharmalot: #socpharm hi there, i’ve been a participant for quite some time as a advocate and mom interested in pharma transparency etc
pharmalot:
While we’re waiting… the FDA issued a press release tonight approving Ranbaxy’s generic Lipitor and then issued a retraction #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@pharmalot: Did you know we also play a little game during #socpharm? If someone mentions the FDA we have to drink – whether wine, beer or…
soulflsepulcher:
great to see you Ed RT @pharmalot: For those who weren’t aware, your moderator this evening is Ed Silverman from Pharmalot #socpharm
CiaranSB:
Hi Ciaran Bellwoar looking forward to a robust conversation on #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@pharmalot: I didn’t hear about the retraction… Is there a link? #socpharm
pharmalot:
likewise… good to see you as well…. #socpharm
pharmalot:
It’s now official… here is the link.. the FDA approved Ranbaxy’s generic lipitor http://t.co/OhmckkUc #pharma #socpharm
joshdbrett:
Joshua, Philadelphia, looking forward to a good hour. #socpharm
soulflsepulcher:
RT @pharmalot: It’s now official… here is the link.. the FDA approved Ranbaxy’s generic lipitor http://t.co/4D9niB4l #pharma #socpharm
margafret:
RT @pharmalot: : It’s now official… here is the link.. the FDA approved Ranbaxy’s generic lipitor http://t.co/OhmckkUc #pharma #socpharm
joshdbrett:
RT @pharmalot: : Its now official… here is the link.. the FDA approved Ranbaxys generic lipitor http://t.co/p5VP5QMh #pharma #socpharm
pharmalot:
the FDA approval release says nothing about ranbaxy manufacturing woes or how that’s been resolved #pharma #socpharm
margafret:
RT @pharmalot: : the FDA approval release says nothing about ranbaxy manufacturing woes or how that’s been resolved #pharma #socpharm
pharmalot:
meanwhile….. how about that facebook apology over the merck / merck page? gotta love ‘administrative errors’ #socpharm
cadelarge:
: @cadelarge: here from Novo Nordisk. Sorry I have been away so long. #socpharm
matthewherper:
RT @pharmalot: : It’s now official… here is the link.. the FDA approved Ranbaxy’s generic lipitor http://t.co/OhmckkUc #pharma #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
oh no – the #socpharm game is in full swing only 10 minutes in #FDA
pharmalot:
yes, sort of… facebook issued its public mea culpa …. but nothing more… time to check the court for updates #socpharm
varunaggarwala:
RT @pharmalot: : It’s now official… here is the link.. the FDA approved Ranbaxy’s generic lipitor http://t.co/OhmckkUc #pharma #socpharm
CiaranSB:
@pharmalot: I didn’t hear about Merck – was there a lot of backlash? #socpharm
crshorizon:
@pharmalot: Here’s a link with the details http://t.co/M0R5opG0 #socpharm
cadelarge:
What was nature of FB Merck gaffe? Got a link? #socpharm
pharmalot:
backlash? mmm… not sure… but us merck claims it got a few hundred more facebook followers .. read here http://t.co/881Hq13l #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Here are links to Merck FB issue: http://t.co/JcZyz3I3 & http://t.co/j2aIDkUu #socpharm
soulflsepulcher:
here’s an article abt the Merck/Facebook homepage mix up http://t.co/kalyDYQ2 #socpharm
pharmalot:
yes, sorry, just put the link out there… german merck claimed exclusive rights to vanity page, but turns us merck had access #socpharm
soulflsepulcher:
ha-we have a nice assortment of articles to read abt Merck’s FB mess, I wonder how important those pages are to their cos #socpharm
Chad_Desai:
RT @pharmalot: : It’s now official… here is the link.. the FDA approved Ranbaxy’s generic lipitor http://t.co/OhmckkUc #pharma #socpharm
pharmalot:
MIT? …. from what i gather, fb would let the 2 mercks duke it out, but fb was the one that was sued… #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Don’t understand how ‘Merck KGaA contracted with Facebook in March 2010 for exclusive use of the page”. #socpharm
pharmalot:
that’s what lawsuit claims RT @EileenOBrien: : Don’t understand how ‘Merck KGaA contracted w/fb …. for exclusive use of the page”. #socpharm
soulflsepulcher:
. @matthewherper: join the #socpharm chat, Ed Silverman from @pharmalot: is hosting it tonight
PollyWebHC:
RT @pharmalot: : While we’re waiting… the FDA issued a press release tonight approving Ranbaxy’s generic Lipitor and then issued a retraction #socpharm
cadelarge:
What is topic for tonight? #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
FB routinely offers exclusivity to a brand or company that pays to use its name on the platform. std practice #socpharm
Cheri29:
RT @pharmalot: : It’s now official… here is the link.. the FDA approved Ranbaxy’s generic lipitor http://t.co/OhmckkUc #pharma #socpharm
pharmalot:
facebook shut it down til things are sorted out still in court RT @margafret: : @pharmalot: Sorry, I meant NOT returned the property #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
I thought I missed it – about to ask same question! RT @cadelarge: : What is topic for tonight? #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
We’ve come a long way when a #pharma co sues for a FB vanity URL! Guess they understand potential value of social media! #socpharm
pharmalot:
well, we started w/ranbaxy lipitor news… then fb & the merck page… how about childhood vaccines? #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@gigi_peterkin Wasn’t aware that you could pay FB. Do you know ballpark amounts? #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
@EileenOBrien: it’s about paying as an advertiser. many brands are paying advertisers on FB! #socpharm
CiaranSB:
RT @EileenOBrien: : We’ve come a long way when a #pharma co sues for a FB vanity URL! Guess they understand potential value of #socpharm
joshdbrett:
RT @EileenOBrien: : Weve come a long way when a #pharma co sues for a FB vanity URL! Guess they understand potential value of sm! #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
while FB won’t shut down walls, they do offer the ability for a paying advertiser to claim its brand, in lieu of verified channels #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
verified pages would be the way to go – like on Twitter, IMO #socpharm
pharmalot:
fyi, still no word from Justice Dept on any resolution w/Ranbaxy over its manufacturing woes #pharma #socpharm
richmeyer:
Medicare extends coverage for obesity – http://t.co/mw1zmBmH #hcsm #socpharm #mHealth #epharma #hcmktg #fdasm
soulflsepulcher:
@EileenOBrien: @gigi_peterkin do the pharma cos pay FaceBook to have their pages up? #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Was surprised to see large numbers of children not being vaccinated: http://t.co/boXYTMtT 9% in WA state. To be expected? #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@gigi_peterkin I agree! #socpharm
joshdbrett:
@EileenOBrien: Did you see the piece on NBC Nightly News last night? #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@joshdbrett: No, what did it say? #socpharm
CiaranSB:
One idea I heard: It’s about protecting most vulnerable people who could die b/c they get passed virus from an unvaccinated kid #socpharm
pharmalot:
that’s what german merck says RT @margafret: : what I wonder is how did both co’s get access? Access rights are approved, not stolen #socpharm
joshdbrett:
@EileenOBrien: That the WA state figure you cited is being seen elsewhere in the U.S., and it poses a public health hazard. #socpharm
margafret:
@pharmalot: unrelated question, has anyone studied impact of pharma social media regs recently put in place by FDA? #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@soulflsepulcher: Many have claimed names for brand pages for free & pay only for FB ads. @gigi_peterkin Your experience as well? #socpharm
pharmalot:
interesting thing about the vaccination rates – broken down by state, but state borders are imaginary, right? and people travel #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@ciaransb Right the idea behind vaccinations is the herd immunity. #socpharm
joshdbrett:
Part of the anti-vaccination trend is the fear of their side effects (Michelle Bachmann contributed to this after a debate). #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@joshdbrett: Absolutely public health issue. Should vaccine companies do more to educate a la Sanofi? http://t.co/sk0zcoOV #socpharm
joshdbrett:
But part of it I think also is the increasing anger at “big government” telling them how to take care of their children. #socpharm
pharmalot:
And what can drug/vaccine makers do that would engender trust as they go about education? #socpharm
joshdbrett:
@pharmalot: Celebrity endorsements of the cause. The anti-vaccination effort has been aided by Jenny McCarthy, etc. #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@margafret: What FDA social media regulations are you thinking about? I think we’re still waiting… #socpharm
pharmalot:
gardasil in calif was an issue RT @joshdbrett: : increasing anger at ‘big gov’t’ telling them how to take care of their children #socpharm
LizzieGeorgescu:
RT @andrewspong: Evolve your business socially in 2012: three strategic models http://t.co/TuiClADX | SlideShare #hcsmeu #pharma #socpharm
joshdbrett:
@pharmalot: Do you mean Texas? #socpharm
CiaranSB:
@joshdbrett: @eileeno do you think it depends on vaccination ie rotovirus vs polio #socpharm
pharmalot:
no, california http://t.co/946KytT4 big to-do over a bill signed by the gov 76 @joshdbrett: : @pharmalot: Do you mean Texas? #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@pharmalot: Partner w/Trust Agents, great example is Sanofi Pasteur & @marchofdimes http://t.co/xEMZPO98 efforts. #socpharm
soulflsepulcher:
Gardasil IS an issue in CA due to parents involvement w the STD Gardasil shot in the hands of minors for decision #socpharm
joshdbrett:
May also be complacency. My generation, now becoming parents, never had to deal with a lot of diseases my folks’ generation faced. #socpharm
soulflsepulcher:
the vaccines for whooping cough, measles, tetanus etc should not be overlooked by parents due to the HPV Gardasil issue IMO #socpharm
joshdbrett:
@soulflsepulcher: @pharmalot: Thanks. The Texas case came up in the GOP debates, but I hadn’t heard of California’s case. #socpharm
ShawScience:
RT @EileenOBrien: – The LinkedIn For Physicians – 30k now on board http://t.co/zhebqTFB #socpharm
soulflsepulcher:
we do not need measles (for(example) make a huge come back #socpharm
pharmalot:
perhaps at some point, the use of exemptions will be re-examined .. and that will cause another to-do #socpharm
matthewherper:
RT @EileenOBrien: : Was surprised to see large numbers of children not being vaccinated: http://t.co/boXYTMtT 9% in WA state. To be expected? #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Exactly! RT @soulflsepulcher:: we do not need measles (for example) make a huge come back #socpharm
joshdbrett:
RT @soulflsepulcher:: we do not need measles (for example) make a huge come back #socpharm
pharmalot:
any thoughts on the exemptions that some use to decline vaccination for their children? #socpharm
CiaranSB:
I know some nurses who refuse to get flu vaccination even tho mandatory. #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
So much ignorance & misinformation (tx Jenny McCarthy!) on entire topic of vaccinations. Does pharma have obligation to counter? #socpharm
BrianSMcGowan:
RT @EileenOBrien: : Weve come a long way when pharma sues for a Facebook vanity URL! Guess they understand potential value of sm! #socpharm”
JanetLSameh:
@eileenobrien American Academy of Pediatrics has good info, but not sure if getting exposure http://t.co/mDzGnyPV #socpharm
joshdbrett:
@EileenOBrien: Yes, both a business and ethical obligation. #socpharm
soulflsepulcher:
@CiaranSB: flu shots are not always proven to work, the strain has to be right one. i’m not for mandatory flu shots myself #socpharm
erohealth:
@EileenOBrien: some say that it’s not pharma’s job to “educate” the public; IMO they should be! #socpharm
akroundtree:
And how to respond w/o sounding like it’s about selling product? RT @EileenOBrien: : Does pharma have obligation to counter? #socpharm
pharmalot:
so they could spread the flu while vaccinating others? RT @CiaranSB: : I know some nurses who refuse flu shots even tho mandatory #socpharm
JanetLSameh:
@soulflsepulcher: Many hospitals mandate flu shots. Caused quite a stir last year when a local hospital did #socpharm
CiaranSB:
@JanetLSameh @eileenobrien don’t think it should come from pharma directly but message needs to be the risks caused to others #socpharm
soulflsepulcher:
@erohealth: @EileenOBrien: Pharma has conflict of interest if they educate the public with their products #socpharm
soulflsepulcher:
@JanetLSameh yes, that would be quite a stir, considering the flu shot received is no guarantee against getting the flu #socpharm
pharmalot:
why not? RT @CiaranSB: : ….don’t think it should come from pharma directly but message needs to be the risks caused to others #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@janetlsameh Just like hospital employee mandatory TB tests. Must be done to protect vulnerable populations working with. #socpharm
soulflsepulcher:
note of interest: i’ve never had the flu or a flu shot #socpharm
CiaranSB:
@soulflsepulcher: I have had both and shot is by far better #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@soulflsepulcher: @erohealth: What about general vaccine awareness & education? Acceptable from pharma? #socpharm
soulflsepulcher:
@EileenOBrien: @janetlsameh well, but TB tests are pretty accurate. Flu shots only are a dart board guess at the strain exposed to #socpharm
soulflsepulcher:
@EileenOBrien: @erohealth: well if pharma co is giving out info on a vaccine they profit from, i believe the COI is not ethical #socpharm
jamierauscher:
Maybe pharma should collaborate w/other groups to produce info. materials, Kind of like the script your future campaign? #socpharm
pharmalot:
shouldn’t pharma stand by its product? RT @soulflsepulcher:: if pharma gives out info on vaccine it profit from, COI is not ethical #socpharm
CiaranSB:
Apparent COI issues RT @pharmalot: : why not? RT @CiaranSB: : ….don’t think it should come from pharma directly #socpharm
JanetLSameh:
@jamierauscher @EileenOBrien: et al. Pharma does sponsor others efforts look at AAP page re vaccines http://t.co/imDK5NGK #socpharm
soulflsepulcher:
@pharmalot: stand by its product is not the same as advertising guised as education #socpharm ppl need to know they profit from sales
EileenOBrien:
Time flew by tonight! Big thanks to @pharmalot: for guest moderating! I’ll post transcript tomorrow. #socpharm
pharmalot:
fair enough RT @soulflsepulcher:: stand by product is not same as advertising guised as education #socpharm ppl need to know they profit
pharmalot:
thx everyone for showing up and a big thx to @EileenOBrien: for having me here #socpharm
joshdbrett:
@pharmalot: @eileenobrien Hard to believe #socpharm is over already. Thanks for running this.
soulflsepulcher:
thanks lively chat as usual ! RT @pharmalot: thx everyone for showing up and a big thx to @EileenOBrien: for having me here #socpharm
CiaranSB:
Thanks for moderating! RT @pharmalot: : thx everyone for up and a big thx to @EileenOBrien: for having me here #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Next week @lkolodjeski from Sanofi will moderate #socpharm. Send us any topic ideas.
jamierauscher:
@janetlsameh Thx for the resource Janet! #socpharm
designpharmaUS:
Got 1st flu vaccine l.y., will not this year! Good contrarian article “Flu Vaccine Exposed” http://t.co/zyIDLpUR #in #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@soulflsepulcher: I get flu shot every year. 40K Americans die each year from flu. Vaccine is our best defense today. #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@soulflsepulcher: I get flu shot every year. 40K Americans die each year from flu. Vaccine is our best defense today. #socpharm
soulflsepulcher:
@EileenOBrien: that’s great Eileen,though I have a great track record of never being sick w /out it. Washing hands best defense!
#socpharm
erohealth:
If they produce vaccines yes @EileenOBrien: What about general vaccine awareness & education? Acceptable from pharma? #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
@EileenOBrien: @soulflsepulcher: so sorry. Train. Signal. Blah. Yes, pay as advertisers only. Pages are free. #socpharm
GKranthi:
RT @pharmalot: : It’s now official… here is the link.. the FDA approved Ranbaxy’s generic lipitor http://t.co/OhmckkUc #pharma #socpharm
TheRealDanSfera:
@soulflsepulcher: I agree w/u on vaccine issue. Was reading #socpharm chat too bad I missed it ive been too busy lately


Transcript from last night's #socpharm tweetchat moderated by @pharmalot is now up: http://t.co/4lTiz5Hw #hcmktg #epharma