EileenOBrien:
Welcome to the #socpharm tweetchat where we talk #pharmar marketing & social media. @gigi_peterkin be our guest moderator. Say hello!
Gigi_Peterkin:
hi everyone – thanks to @EileenOBrien: for asking me to guest moderate #socpharm this week!
Gigi_Peterkin:
I’m eager to get started – shall we jump right into the #socpharm topics?
EileenOBrien:
Also, we’ll assume that all tweets are your own opinions & not that of your employer
#socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
please do assume that! RT @EileenOBrien: : Also, we’ll assume that all tweets are your own opinions & not that of your employer
#socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
T1: at #startuphealth Todd Park from HHS said the shadow of regulations worse than the reality., spkg of HIPAA. do you agree? #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
can the same be said for FDA? other regulators? I think his point was don’t be limited by the unknown #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
@mlouann: Hi Mary Lou – welcome! #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@Gigi_Peterkin: I think there is a lot of misinformation about HIPAA & it can be used as an excuse. #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
@EileenOBrien: agree with re: to HIPAA, esp with EHR data. but is it true of all regulators? are we self-limiting? #socpharm
mlouann:
i think there is paranoia #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
T1: Yes there is definitely fear, paranoia & loathing about the FDA in #biopharma! #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
it’s quite powerful to hear the CTO of HHS tell you that regulations bark is worse than its bite. c’mon marketers. thoughts? #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
T1 – agree re: FDA paranoia. have we created a boogey man that doesn’t exist? or made it bigger than the reality? #biopharma #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@Gigi_Peterkin: But you don’t want to be the one caught. Plus, it is an easy excuse. #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
@EileenOBrien: no one wants to be “caught”. do we really understand what would catch us? and look at Boehringer, breaking ground #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
T1 I guess my point is a company’s risk tolerance is sometimes much lower than the guidelines will allow for. #socpharm
mlouann:
it bothers me so that regulation gets in the way of doing the right thing for patients and the rules are obv not straightforward #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
good pt. patients first. #socpharm RT @mlouann: : it bothers me so that regulation gets in the way of doing th… (cont) http://t.co/M0DHs3HQ
Gigi_Peterkin:
but some companies are out there breaking new ground in #socpharm. w/the same federal regulations. so where’s the line?
EileenOBrien:
T1: Yes lawyers & regulators are paid to be risk averse. Agree @boehringerus are doing a great job. #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
RT @PhilBaumann: To some extent I’d agree w/@todd_park re http://t.co/u2955HkM #startuphealth But there r nuances 2 face #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
Tweet deck is not cooperating – one sec guys #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
#socpharm RT @mlouann: : prob a company culture thing. some are more risk tolerant. would love to hear regulatory prespective.
Gigi_Peterkin:
RT @PhilBaumann: : To some extent I’d agree with @todd_park re: http://t.co/WxEgOYJL #startuphealth But there are nuances to face. #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
@PhilBaumann: agree. there are always nuances Phil. but should they stop innovation? #socpharm #startuphealth
EileenOBrien:
@Gigi_Peterkin: What was #startuphealth? What was the context? #socpharm
mlouann:
prob a company culture thing. some are more risk tolerant. would love to hear regulatory prespective. #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
#startuphealth is an organization that funds – wait for it – startups in health. their last mtg was held ystrday @edelmanpr #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
Todd Park was one of the panelists. his passion is data liberation. mking EHRs avail to ppl. and HIPAA is not limiting this #socpharm
PhilBaumann:
@gigi_peterkin No, not at all. Innovation has to progress: as long as *patient safety first* is followed. #socpharm (1 of 2)
Gigi_Peterkin:
which is a good segue into T2: how does – or how will – data liberation, EHRs etc., impact pharma? #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
agree – Pts 1st! #socpharm RT @PhilBaumann: : No, not at all. Innovation has to progress: as long as *patient safety first* is followed.
PhilBaumann:
@gigi_peterkin (2 of 2) Inherent in Pharma is risk(%). Key is to mitigate % to patients, investors & lawyers’ cholesterol levels. #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
wldn’t want legal eagles to stroke out #socpharm RT @PhilBaumann: : Inherent in Pharma is risk(%). Key is to mi… (cont) http://t.co/dhO0cSKE
PhilBaumann:
@gigi_peterkin I was joking about the lawyers’ cholesterol of course. That can skyrocket for all I care
#socpharm
EileenOBrien:
T2: The more data shared among physicians & pts the better. Esp 4 #raredisease EHRs & data liberation might help earlier dx & tx. #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
@PhilBaumann: yes, some cos are inherently risk averse-true in any sector. in an era of empowered pts tho, models need 2 chg #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
@EileenOBrien: T2 – great point. and sharing amongst phys of diff disciplines-pathologists and oncologists for example #socpharm
mlouann:
RT @EileenOBrien: : T2: The more data shared among physicians & pts the better. Esp 4 #raredisease EHRs & data liberation might help earlier dx & tx. #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
are the pharma marketers at a convention tonight? join us at #socpharm to discuss data liberation! DVR whatever is on TV
EileenOBrien:
Think most #pharma marketers would agree the more data (including prescription data) shared via EHRs the better. #socpharm
mlouann:
in the case of rare diseases esp, EHR would be so helpful for 2nd opinions #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
LOL! #hcsm #hcmktg RT @Gigi_Peterkin: : are the #pharma marketers at a convention tonight? join us at #socpharm to discuss data liberation!
EileenOBrien:
Or for any 2nd opinions, good point. RT @mlouann: : in the case of rare diseases esp, EHR would be so helpful for 2nd opinions #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
EHR is also helpful toaging pts and their caregivers. how many times have you tracked down lab results for 2-3 diff docs? #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@rlbates At #socpharm chat we are talking about liberting data via EHRs. What’s your view on that?
urban_healing:
RT @EileenOBrien: : LOL! #hcsm #hcmktg RT @Gigi_Peterkin: : are the #pharma marketers at a convention tonight? join us at #socpharm to discu …
Gigi_Peterkin:
in an era of personalized medicine, where diagnostics are paired with Rx, many docs need to work together. EHR and enabler. #socpharm
Murfomurf:
RT @EileenOBrien: : T2: The more data shared among physicians & pts the better. Esp 4 #raredisease EHRs & data liberation might help earlier dx & tx. #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@Gigi_Peterkin: Excellent point. Personalized medicine will absolutely require even more sharing of key data points. #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
@EileenOBrien: and personalized medicine, along with devices and diagnostics, is where much of pharma is diversifying. #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
well, @EileenOBrien: and I can debate some new data for T3 – join in if you like
…. #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
T3. of the 15k+ surveyed, 31% said they would spend less time w/a friend due to unhealthy behavior. 44% said friends impact health #socpharm
rlbates:
Reality hasn’t met promise yet RT @EileenOBrien: @rlbates At #socpharm chat we are talking about liberating data via EHRs. What’s your view?
Gigi_Peterkin:
T3 health is becoming social. but only 30% think businesses are keeping pace. what does this mean for pharma? #socpharm
jearch:
@Gigi_Peterkin: @EileenOBrien: Glad to join for just a bit. I think EHR = lots of benies 4 pts, even if just to keep track of meds #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
and what do you think of the 31% willing to lessen time with friends to benefit their health? cc:@andrewspong #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@rlbates Yes, seems like we’ve been talking about EHRs forever. How long do u think wide adoption will take? #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
@jearch: hi Joyce – great to see you! and a very good point about meds. day to day health mgmt becoming a challenge for many #socpharm
jearch:
RT @Gigi_Peterkin: : in an era of personalized medicine, where diagnostics are paired with Rx, many docs need to work together. EHR and enabler. #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
@EileenOBrien: @rlbates for some great info on EHRs and data liberation, check out bluebuttondata.org and directproject.org #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
@jearch: what’s your view on the shadow of regulations being worse than the reality? (a/c to HHS’s Todd Park) #socpharm
FearLoathingBTX:
An AstraZeneca antidepressant failure http://t.co/6MDxQreZ #bioethics #socpharm #pharma #Seroquel
jearch:
@Gigi_Peterkin: Hi. Bad connectivity 2night. Did u ever try carrying round your parents list of meds in your wallet? EHR can help #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
@jearch: can’t keep track of my dad’s meds – have made an Evernote to do it! #DIY_EHR! #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
My issue w/EHR is u have to manually enter & change & print. I think I have 3 out there, wait Google Health is gone, make that 2 #socpharm
urban_healing:
RT @Gigi_Peterkin: : @EileenOBrien: @rlbates for some great info on EHRs and data liberation, check out bluebuttondata.org and directproject.org #socpharm
Jeff_Greene:
Hi #socpharm – joining late
EileenOBrien:
When will meds have barcode or QR code to swipe & automatically be entered into our EHR? #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
@Jeff_Greene: Hi and welcome. jump in #socpharm
jearch:
@Gigi_Peterkin: Interesting T3. Where are “friend” stats from? #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
@EileenOBrien: True EHR is dynamic. or should be. that’s the promise not yet fulfilled #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
@jearch: T3 stats are from the 2011 Edelman Health Barometer #EHC2011 #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Amazon has it all figured out. Maybe they should take over EHRs! “People like u are also taking….” #socpharm
Jeff_Greene:
Just saw this today: iPads flopped at Seattle Children’s because EMR software too PC-centric http://t.co/IOHtjIWK #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
T4. a lot is said about behavior in pts. 50% who try to chg negative behavior relapse. How can biz/pharma cr8 pos reinforcement? #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
RT @Jeff_Greene: : Just saw this today: iPads flopped at Seattle Children’s because EMR software too PC-centric http://t.co/nXpAT3M6 #socpharm
mlouann:
@EileenOBrien: only if they have free EHR prime! #socpharm
jearch:
@Gigi_Peterkin: Never thought of Evernote! I’ve got notes in my wallet but you have to keep the list rx updated. EHR helpful. #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@Jeff_Greene: that is fascinating. We’re hearing so much positive buzz about ipad use by docs. #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
hahahaha – well said re: Amazon RT @mlouann: : @EileenOBrien: only if they have free EHR prime! #socpharm
jearch:
RT @Gigi_Peterkin: : @jearch: what’s your view on the shadow of regulations being worse than the reality? (a/c to HHS’s Todd Park) #socpharm
Jeff_Greene:
@mlouann: Hey Mary Lou – HealthEders with a strong showing on #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Good reminder that use comes down to functionality & saving clinicians time. #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
I’d like to think that EHR would be platform independent. data is data, and should render agnostically. in a perfect world…#socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Should the government propose an agnostic EHR platform? They are biggest insurers via Medicare/Medicaid #socpharm
mlouann:
T4 a well edcuated patient would help but most patient ed is lacking #socpharm
jearch:
RT @Gigi_Peterkin: : @jearch: T3 stats are from the 2011 Edelman Health Barometer #EHC2011 #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
how do we remedy? RT @mlouann: : T4 a well edcuated patient would help but most patient ed is lacking #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
ppl. who use technology to aid in health find it v beneficial. 74% of 18-34 yr olds tell us devices and apps improve health #socpharm (1/2)
mlouann:
my pediatrician office has all ipads and LOVES them-of course i had to discuss w/ them
#socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
yet only 20% of the global pop regularly use tools/apps to impr health. and only 29% dwnload health apps. where is tech taking us? #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@mlouann: Do they use for EHR? (BTW whenever I go to an appt I grill my dr on how they get info online, mobile, etc!) #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
@mlouann: what do your pediatricians love about the iPads? do they use with pts/for pt education or for themselves? #socpharm
mlouann:
@EileenOBrien: they do use for EHR. previously they had tablets-didnt work out #socpharm
jearch:
Good quiz @EileenOBrien: : When will meds have barcode or QR code to swipe & automatically be entered into our EHR? #socpharm”
mlouann:
@Gigi_Peterkin: I think applying health literacy principles is a start for patient ed #socpharm
IanGertler:
@Gigi_Peterkin: re: only 20% of global pop use tools to impr health. only 29% dwnoald health apps. #socpharm > #InProgress! cc @jerseygrl
lsk204:
@jearch: that sounds especially helpful for hospital EHR’s to quickly get med patient is on if they bring the bottle with them #socpharm
PhilBaumann:
@EileenOBrien: Good question. There was a venture I think working on something like that – will have to find it. #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
seems like a no-brainer!RT @EileenOBrien: : When will meds have barcode /QR code to swipe & automatically be entered into our EHR? #socpharm
mlouann:
@Gigi_Peterkin: they use it for themselves. like convenience and instant access to records. they do not use for patient ed #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
I think hospitals already use a barcode system for meds. Interesting to think of expanding out. #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
@mlouann: I think it would be a great tool for patient ed. seems like low hanging fruit for pharma to supply ed matls for iPad w/Rx #socpharm
jearch:
Form follows function for all tools, especially in busy HC environment @EileenOBrien: : Reminder – use comes down 2 functionality #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
@EileenOBrien: I think barcode sys good for tracking meds in hospitals. still want a human double-checking I’m getting right meds #socpharm
mlouann:
@Gigi_Peterkin: I very much agree! Esp for complex concepts like understanding MOA #socpharm
Jeff_Greene:
If Walgreens can make it easy to scan your med barcode, providers shouldn’t be that far behind (in theory) #socpharm
lsk204:
@EileenOBrien: I mean for a history of the meds I was currently on #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
RT @lsk204: : @EileenOBrien: When I was recently in ER nurse/doc just looked at my med bottle, would think scan would’ve been faster #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
@mlouann: iPad animated MOA would be great! and may also help w/adherence. see how Rx works, more likely to stay on regimen #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Our time it up tonight! Thank you Gigi_Peterkin: for guest moderating #socpharm tonight & raising such great topics.
Gigi_Peterkin:
@Isk204 @EileenOBrien: even better if record from pharmacy electronically accessible to hospital in one EHR. no need for bottle#socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
thanks @EileenOBrien: and to everyone for joining #socpharm. enjoyed the convo
PhilBaumann:
Microsoft Tags may be better in h/c and meds. See http://t.co/DNtsGHBK as an example. cc @EileenOBrien: #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Thanks everyone for joining in the discussion tonight. If you have any discussion topics for next week, please let me know. #socpharm
mlouann:
@Gigi_Peterkin: Yes! Truly understanding is key to adherance! #socpharm
lsk204:
@Gigi_Peterkin: Yes even better, though if you use multiple pharmacies (like college kids/people who move often) could be an issue #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@PhilBaumann: Interesting, thanks for sharing. #socpharm
jearch:
@lsk204: My mom brought bag of pills-Bag of barcodes would be btr @lsk204: : @jearch: sounds helpful for hospital EHR’s to get meds #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
@lsk204: that’s where Todd Park and HHS need to help centralize EHR data. multiple pharmacies cld be a nightmare #socpharm
jearch:
RT @Gigi_Peterkin: : @mlouann: iPad animated MOA would be great! and may also help w/adherence. see how Rx works, more likely to stay on regimen #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
@lsk204: check out bluebuttondata.org and directproject.org. these are 2 ways the govt is trying to open up EHR data to indiv #socpharm
jearch:
RT @Jeff_Greene: : If Walgreens can make it easy to scan your med barcode, providers shouldn’t be that far behind (in theory) #socpharm
PhilBaumann:
Thanks @Gigi_Peterkin: & @EileenOBrien: for leading #socpharm Enjoy your evening/morning everybody.
lsk204:
@jearch: good idea would be a pill recognition program perhaps to allow doc to snap a photo of pill and get name of med #socpharm
Gigi_Peterkin:
@PhilBaumann: thanks for joining and lending your insights #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@lsk204: I like it! #socpharm
lsk204:
@Gigi_Peterkin: & @EileenOBrien: Agreed, thanks for leading a great chat and thanks fellow #socpharm -ers
Jeff_Greene:
Thanks @Gigi_Peterkin: ! G’nite all #socpharm
IanGertler:
Not sure how accurate it is, but via #cnbcdebate — 18% of GDP spent on #healthcare. Sounds like consumers/patients being screwed! #socpharm
jearch:
Thanks @Gigi_Peterkin: @EileenOBrien: @PhilBaumann: @Jeff_Greene: @lsk204: and all. Good discussion and good night! #socpharm
jearch:
Yes! @lsk204: : @jearch: good idea would be a pill recognition program perhaps to allow doc to snap a photo of pill & get name of med #socpharm

