EileenOBrien:
Welcome to #socpharm tweetchat about pharma marketing & social media. Please introduce yourself & why you are interested in this topic.
EileenOBrien:
We’ll assume that all tweets within #socpharm are your own and not your employers (unless you specifically declare them).
JanelleBowden:
<< Hi, joining in today for first time. Interested in clinical trials, and pt engagement, and what pharma are doing in SM space #socpharm
ellenhoenig:
@EileenOBrien Hi–joining interesting in everything about healthcare and patient marketing and support #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
I’m Eileen, work at Siren Interactive where we market #raredisease therapies & I’m fascinated by using interactive for health care #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@JanelleBowden @ellenhoenig Welcome first timer, Janelle. And Ellen so nice to “see” you!! #socpharm
cadelarge:
@cadelarge here from NoviNordisk. Sorry I have been so scarce lately. #socpharm
rawarrior:
@EileenOBrien Lurking from #cenFL #socpharm
PR_in_Pink:
Hi everyone–joining in for discussions on pharma and social media. Interested in communications and healthcare issues too. #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@rawarrior Lurkers are welcome! Thanks for saying hello though too #socpharm
kelconnors:
@eileenobrien #socpharm I create conversations and connections to intersect health with life-esp with women as activists. real time…
ChrisMLindgren:
From Bostonish MA, hello #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
First topic comes courtesy of @PR_in_Pink #socpharm
cadelarge:
So what is topic for tonight? #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
What do you think of NEJM article about pharma & social media http://bit.ly/fE4Bg8 ?#socpharm
zak_attaq:
hello, i am a marketing major in @ejyoung67 ‘s #mkt111 class here at #campchamp #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
What time is it in Australia?? RT @JanelleBowden I’ve been meaning to come for some time, but timing hasn’t work out. #socpharm
JanelleBowden:
@EileenOBrien It’s 12 midday Thursday here in Sydney #socpharm
cadelarge:
I had not seen this NEJM article about pharma & social media http://bit.ly/fE4Bg8. Let me scan it. #socpharm
ellenhoenig:
adds nothing new ! @EileenOBrien What do you think of NEJM article about pharma & social media http://bit.ly/fE4Bg8 ?#socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@ellenhoenig Agree it’s pretty much an overview of where we are now & what we’ve been saying for awhile ) #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
I know last year at hearings there was lots of talk about doing research on consumers & online px health info. Any updates? #socpharm
JanelleBowden:
Agree RT @ellenhoenig adds nothing new @EileenOBrien What do u think of NEJM article abt pharma & sm http://bit.ly/fE4Bg8 #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
And for the research to be taken seriously it would have to be done outside of pharma to avoid appearance of bias. #socpharm
PR_in_Pink:
Agree w/ their point about research as well @EileenOBrien. Lots of issues asso’d with pharma-funded research and credibility. #socpharm
JanelleBowden:
@PR_in_Pink @EileenOBrien I don’t think pharma-funded research is the only with credibility issues. #socpharm
cadelarge:
Adds nothing new for we who are on this topic weekly but I have to think it adds new for the core readers of NEJM. #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Did everyone see consumer “watchdog” groups complaint w/FTC re pharma interactive marketing? http://bit.ly/e1y4TU #socpharm
cadelarge:
Its a good historic summary and current issues for those not familiar. I will use in my company. #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@cadelarge Glad we could be of service! #socpharm
cadelarge:
Research needs to evolve from multiple sources pharma, media, academia, FDA, etc., for is to see a consensus of findings. #socpharm
kelconnors:
#socpharm Agree RT @ellenhoenig adds nothing new and which “disinterested” party will interject and take a stand for greater exploration…
PR_in_Pink:
Q2 – The FTC complaint seems to add another layer to the issue of digital/social media healthcare marketing. #socpharm
zak_attaq:
@eileenOBrien, what an you tell me and #mkt111 about interactive marketing? #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Wonder how many complaints the FTC gets in a year? #socpharm
JanelleBowden:
Is soln 4 issues raised in NEJM and consumer group complaints to educate public not to rely on 1 source of online info 4 advice? #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@zak_attaq We focus on pharma interactive marketing in #socpharm, which is pretty unique due to seriousness of products & regulations.
ellenhoenig:
Its quite a mouthful-hard to get thru let alone consider all it says! @PR_in_Pink Q2 The FTC complaint seems to add another layer #socpharm
zak_attaq:
@eileenObrien can i have an example? #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@JanelleBowden I like the @epatientdave approach use common sense for health info both online and off! #socpharm
JanelleBowden:
@EileenOBrien I agree with you. #socpharm
cadelarge:
FTC complaint not surprising. What is always at issue is that neutral means can be used for beneficial or greedy ends. #socpharm
JanelleBowden:
Seems regulation is supposed to fix everything, but there will always be gaps. Common sense and education seem better approach #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@zak_attaq Whenever a pharma co talks abt px drug needs to talk abt risks & benefits. Can be challenge w/limited space like tweets #socpharm
cadelarge:
@eileenobrien common sense is not as commonly agreed upon as we would like. -D #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@cadelarge Can you elaborate on FTC complaint tweet? #socpharm
PR_in_Pink:
My thoughts exact! RT @cadelarge @eileenobrien common sense is not as commonly agreed upon as we would like. -D #socpharm
JanelleBowden:
@cadelarge true, and common sense can sometimes go out the window when one is desperate I suppose #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Next topic is from @pre_scribed How do you make sure social media integrates w/rest of your online marketing efforts? #socpharm
cadelarge:
Best intentions can be secondguessed & esp. where $ is involved. Theres no harm in checks & balances. It keeps all honest. #socpharm
kelconnors:
@cadelarge Agree FTC complaint not surprising privacy is the biggest issue facing sm I think #socpharm
cadelarge:
Watchdogs watching capitalist practices is what makes for a well balanced and functioning system. They are doing their job and… #socpharm
JanelleBowden:
Not a marketer so will dip out of T2. But my common sense tells me to make sure SM msgs complement your offline brand/mktg msgs #socpharm
cadelarge:
I think it makes us do our jobs better. All power and ambition needs checking. #socpharm
ellenhoenig:
The milliion dollar challenge -) @EileenOBrien Next topic @pre_scribed How do u make sure SM integrates w/rest of online mktg? #socpharm
cadelarge:
T2 Integration is assured when SM objectives are same as OL program objectives. Common objectives & KPIs align and integrate. #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
T2 And communicate, communicate, communicate w/in teams. #socpharm
ellenhoenig:
important aspects- to have strong brand position and style guide and common obj leading all sm and mktg efforts@EileenOBrien #socpharm
cadelarge:
Now the trick is to establish and implement under common objectives and KPIs. -D I dont want to suggest its as easy as I said. #socpharm
ellenhoenig:
@EileenOBrien and #socpharm– so sorry, have to leave now for family obligations!! thanks for enjoyable 1/2 hour! PR_in_PinkGreat insights from folks in the know for T2 – thanks! #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Next topic is little different, not nec related just to pharma how do you reconcile personal vs. professional sm presence? #socpharm
AboutOneCEO:
RT @EileenOBrien Next topic is little different, not nec related just to pharma how do you reconcile personal vs. professional sm presence? #socpharm
sirenwendy:
T2 Eileen, are you saying you have a personal SM life? #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
This fascinating blog post from @mitchjoel & comments, inspired this question. Read it when you have time http://bit.ly/eAEaVP #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
LOL Wendy, no I don’t ) RT @sirenwendy T2 Eileen, are you saying you have a personal SM life? #socpharm
JanelleBowden:
T3 For me, it is the tools I use. FB just personal, Linked in just professional, Twitter a mix of both #socpharm
cadelarge:
T3 I dont reconcile. I let them flow together but there is not a thick like between my personal and biz lives. #socpharm
zak_attaq:
thank you everyone. Very interesting chat #socpharm
PR_in_Pink:
T3 Mine is similar to @JanelleBowden FB personal, Twitter a mix of both but I try to stay true to my personality on both ) #socpharm
JanelleBowden:
My problem is the # of companies now using FB pages. I don’t want really want to share my personal life with them. #socpharm
JanelleBowden:
@PR_in_Pink agree – have to stay true to self everywhere. But my prof colleagues don’t really need to see my niece’s bday party ) #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@JanelleBowden My issue is that I “like” dozen different #rarediseases on #FB. People think I’m a mess #socpharm
cadelarge:
@janellebowden FB privacy settings let you go stealth for those cos. I like that the right cos find me based on my FB content. #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
I don’t think I could work someplace that wouldn’t let me tweet. Others? #socpharm
kelconnors:
T2 I have one sm presence that is professional but I make sure to let some light shine in w personality )) I am an entrepreneur #socpharm
cadelarge:
@eileenobrien After a while we know u don’t have those diseases but r just interested in them. Same goes for me & mental illness. #socpharm
JanelleBowden:
@cadelarge I’m nervous I won’t get it right. Also wonder about pic appearing on their page. Does it suggest recommendation? #socpharm
kelconnorsRT :
@cadelarge T3 I dont reconcile. I let them flow together but there is not a thick like between my personal and biz lives. #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
My professional life is also creeping into FB as @HBAnet has a page & other professional assocs too. #socpharm
cadelarge:
@eileenobrien You dont need permission from ur co tweet, FB, LI or otherwise if you have a smartphone. -D #socpharm
PR_in_Pink:
I learn so much on Twitter each day–news, industry trends, etc. It actually benefits my employer by enriching my knowledge ) #socpharm
JanelleBowden:
@PR_in_Pink Ahh, but is your employer enlightened enough to realise that? #socpharm
cadelarge:
@janellebowden Reco is in the eye of the beholder. If you google me, do you think I reco the paid ads that show up w my listing. #socpharm
PR_in_Pink:
Hmmm, good point! RT @JanelleBowden @PR_in_Pink Ahh, but is your employer enlightened enough to realise that? #socpharm
JanelleBowden:
@cadelarge I think google ads are a little different. If your face is on a FB pg as a fan, you have linked yourself with that co. #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Anyone have a last question to raise? Or an interesting article to share? Upcoming event? Joke? #socpharm
cadelarge:
@janellebowden You are 50% right based on who is looking. And 25% or 75% right is you thing those see care that much. #socpharm
JanelleBowden:
Eg. If you “like”/”fan” your acc’tant, your friends make see as a recommendation. What happens then if acc’tant found to be dodgy? #socpharm
JanelleBowden:
@cadelarge Agree. It’s just something I wonder… #socpharm
cadelarge:
I recently attended my first TED event, #TEDxPhilly. What an inspiring event. My notes are here http://bit.ly/gTRw0j #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@cadelarge I heard #TEDxPhilly was great, I was bummed I was in Chicago. Thanks for sharing notes http://bit.ly/gTRw0j #socpharm
cadelarge:
@janellebowden Yes, the dodgy factor is 25% to 50% to 75% on anyone depending on the day of the week and the context. -D #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
In 2 weeks on December 15, @JNJVideo will be guest moderating #socpharm. Rob Halper will be talking all things video & YouTube.
JanelleBowden:
Unrelated I’ve been reading manaing with the brain in mind. Very interesting. http://bit.ly/em7CSK #socpharm
PR_in_Pink:
Sounds cool-looking fwd to it! @EileenOBrien December 15, @JNJVideo will be guest moderating #socpharm.
cadelarge:
Gotta run & prep 4 Visual Literacy class tomorrow. See my first lecture at http://bit.ly/e2LT6i #socpharm
JanelleBowden:
Thanks for an interesting discussion all. Have to go for now. #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Thanks everyone for joining in #socpharm tonight. I’ll let you know when I post the transcript!
cadelarge:
@JanelleBowden Thanks for tip. I love S&B! #socpharm
PR_in_Pink:
Thanks everyone–enjoyed the conversation, as always! Have a great week ) #socpharm
kelconnors:
@cadelarge Gr8 takeaway #TedxPhilly You have to remember that you are an artist – Aptowicz. Budget, time, money, energy for this#socpharm

