EileenOBrien:
Excited that @earl20 formerly of AZ, now consulting, will be guest moderating #socpharm tonight so I can relax w/my wine
#socpharm
earl20:
#socpham Welcome to the pharma marketing & social media chat (#socpharm). Please start w/intro & why you’re interested in the topic.⁰⁰
richmeyer:
@DaphneLeigh @swoodruff Anyone that thinks social media is going to save DTC marketing is kidding themselves #hcsm #socpharm
earl20:
#socpharm We’ll assume that all tweets within #socpharm are your own and not your employers (unless you specifically declare them).⁰⁰
EileenOBrien:
Hi Earl! I’m Eileen work at Siren Interactive, focus on #raredisease therapies. Interested in all things #epharma #pharma #socpharm….
EileenOBrien:
This is hard without Tweetdeck! It won’t let me connect on home computer & Tweetchat is waaay delayed. #socpharm
Earl20:
Happy to guest moderate tonight. #socpharm
Earl20:
T1 Pharmacos talk about shift from product-centric to patient and customer centric. I see great implications for SM engagement #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@Earl20 I wonder if everyone in pharma marketing is at #epharma in NYC all out at dinner now
#socpharm
EileenOBrien:
T1: Agree it’s a great shift from a brand-focus to a focus on patients/caregivers (& always HCPs). #socpharm
Earl20:
Your opinion on Pharma Content: What is appropriate vs. what is permissible? #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@Earl20 Can you clarify that question a bit? #socpharm
DaphneLeigh:
@richmeyer Who said anything about “save”? Basic, fact-of-life, no-brainer, better-figure-it-out stuff. @swoodruff #hcsm #socpharm
MarthaRaymondRN:
RT @DaphneLeigh @swoodruff is on fire re: FDA no-action on SM guidelines. http://bit.ly/efw0Qs #hcsm #socpharm
Earl20:
DDMAC likely to give basic guidance only and not meet pharmaco expectaion. What should pharmacos do? #socpharm
richmeyer:
RIch Meyer World of DTC Marketing & writer for various med and marketing pubs #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@richmeyer Hi Rich!! #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@Earl20 What pharma should’ve been doing all along: basics. Listening via sm, creating employee guidelines, educating themselves #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@Earl20 Still many ways to stay within current FDA guidelines & participate in social media #socpharm
BrentWRose:
Hi #socpharm, Brent from DSI here…took me a minute to get the tech working…
PR_in_Pink:
Agreed – lay the groundwork: RT @EileenOBrien: @Earl20 What pharma should’ve been doing all along: basics. #socpharm
BrentWRose:
drink! RT @EileenOBrien: @Earl20 Still many ways to stay within current FDA guidelines & participate in social media #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Warning getting on soapbox: pharma should do web basics 1st before worrying abt sm. Ensure organic & paid search r good #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@BrentWRose LOL! I do have a lovely glass of Shiraz sitting next to me, so I will drink #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@BrentWRose Haven’t read all the #epharma tweets. What’s the hot topic? #socpharm
DrJonathan:
Good evening everyone;-) #socpharm
BrentWRose:
@EileenOBrien mobile was especially hot this year #socpharm
earl20:
Basics are very impt and all co’s should be engaging at that level. So why aren’t they? #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@DrJonathan Hello! We are talking about the shift in pharma marketing from brand to patient focus. #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@Earl20 Shiny object syndrome? Silos? #socpharm
richmeyer:
Lots of pharma comps will not allow employees to monitor SM because of Adverse events #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@richmeyer Still? Will those pharmacos allow agencies to monitor SM & report AEs through normal channels. #socpharm
BrentWRose:
#socpharm @EileenOBrien & I thght there was a gd mix betwn soc, mobil and some back 2 basics stuff. (a good basics prez frm @jonmrich)
richmeyer:
It depends on the company I know 2 here on West Coast that wont even allow employees to go to SM sites #socpharm
DrJonathan:
@richmeyer Do you mean they don’t allow employees to monitor SM just at work or also privately? #socpharm
richmeyer:
@DrJonathan No they do not hell they wont even sponsor an patients advocate group because they cant control content #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Wow, I thought we were past that & that pharma understood the value of listening via sm. #socpharm
DrJonathan:
@richmeyer It’s a pharma job- not the FBI. They shouldn’t have that much control over employees’ private lives. #socpharm
Earl20:
Depends on legal risk comfort. Pharmacos only shoudl be respons for AE reporting on their own co or brand sites / properties #socpharm
richmeyer:
@DrJonathan One company even blocks BLOGGER sites from Google #socpharm
BrentWRose:
RT @BrentWRose @EileenOBrien I dont think its that simple yet….unfortunately #socpharm
agDesignNetwork:
RT @DaphneLeigh: My friend @swoodruff is on fire re: FDA no-action on SM guidelines. http://bit.ly/efw0Qs #hcsm #socpharm
Earl20:
@EileenOBrien Sadly not for some companies #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
RT @DrJonathan: @richmeyer It’s a pharma job- not the FBI. They shouldn’t have that much control over employees’ private lives. #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
See, I always learn something new on the #socpharm tweetchat. And I’ve even had my laugh thanks to @drjonathan!
Earl20:
T2 Do patients care more about sat /loyalty to a product, trust in a co., or their network’s experience w a company or iproduct? #socpharm
rawarrior:
@richmeyer @EileenOBrien A friend who works in Pharm cannot write my LinkedIn recommend since it’s against SocMed policy! #socpharm #FYI
richmeyer:
@rawarrior @EileenOBrien Yes and a biotech company out here terminates people who write on social media boards #socpharm #FYI
Earl20:
T2 Do patients care more about sat /loyalty to a product, trust in a co., or their network’s experience w a company or product? #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@Earl20 Interesting questionl For pharma I think it depends on drug. If they are happy w/drug no burning need to change. #socpharm
BrentWRose:
@Earl20 what do you mean by “network” #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
RT @earl20: T2 Do patients care more about sat /loyalty to a product, trust in a co., or their network’s experience w a company or product? #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
T2 If pt having side effects will trust network experience with product IMHO #socpharm
Earl20:
@BrentWRose The network you operate in – your FB friends, Twitter followers, bloggers you read etc. #socpharm
PR_in_Pink:
T2 I would guess it’s strongest with their personal networks – friends & family. Some prob don’t know what cos make their Rx’s. #socpharm
BrentWRose:
@Earl20 thanks #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@rawarrior @richmeyer That’s crazy! #socpharm
HealthcareSMM:
RT @agDesignNetwork @DaphneLeigh: My friend @swoodruff is on fire re: FDA no-action on SM guidelines. http://bit.ly/efw0Qs #hcsm #socpharm
BrentWRose:
@PR_in_Pink I would agree…network trust is usually pretty strong. But if someone has good first hand exp, that is key #socpharm
richmeyer:
funny because pharma hardly ever does market research with current patients to ask them the trigger for trial its always target #socpharm
richmeyer:
so pharma legal and reg OK’s the stuff they have been fined for like off label promo but not social media ??? #socpharm
rawarrior:
@richmeyer @EileenOBrien Just sayin’: #LinkedIn is hardly a socmed board. #socpharm A public recommendation of personal friend: Nix.
EileenOBrien:
T2 For serious meds (ie cancer) probably doctor reco is key. But for allergy, birthcontrol etc. family/friends may be essential #socpharm
Earl20:
@richmeyer I think the future will rely more on payer insight than patient #socpharm
richmeyer:
ePharma summit, DDMAC & Social Media and other musings | World of DTC Marketing.com http://t.co/Wje7l5R #socpharm
rawarrior:
RT @DrJonathan: @richmeyer It’s a pharma job- not the FBI. They shouldn’t have that much control over employees’ private lives. #socpharm
rawarrior:
RT @richmeyer: @DrJonathan One company even blocks BLOGGER sites from Google #socpharm // I smell fear.
BrentWRose:
@EileenOBrien It certainly depends on the d state. Also depends on timeline. Sometimes research happens after trial #socpharm
richmeyer:
Reality: Lots of big brand coming off patent =lots of people looking for new jobs #socpharm
Earl20:
T3 F/U to T2. Does Co reputation influence medicine choice with patients? #socpharm
richmeyer:
@Earl20 Patients should fear payers a lot more than pharma #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@Earl20 Interesting point about the key role payers play. #socpharm
BrentWRose:
@Earl20 I don’t think this happens as much as the industry would like to think #socpharm
richmeyer:
Pharma is also going to have a hard time attracting new blood & talent #socpharm
Earl20:
@richmeyer US Rx market is low single digit growth for teh next 4-5 yrs. Many big pharmacos dealing with negative growth. #socpharm
BrentWRose:
Is this more relevant among HCP customers? RT @Earl20: T3 F/U to T2. Does Co reputation influence medicine choice with patients? #socpharm
richmeyer:
@Earl20 Yes and a good time for new business models and investment in infrastructure by asking what do we need in 5 years #socpharm
BrentWRose:
where should pharma start 2 look? RT @richmeyer: Pharma is also going to have a hard time attracting new blood & talent #socpharm
Earl20:
@BrentWRose Good question. I do think patients can influence Phys decisions on Rx. #socpharm
richmeyer:
@BrentWRose Digital” They need people who understand marketing and digital channel and how people using #socpharm
Earl20:
@richmeyer Agree Rich #socpharm
richmeyer:
@BrentWRose They also need to invest in infrastructure for digital marketing #socpharm
richmeyer:
@BrentWRose Hell they dont even get the money they are loosing through non compliance #socpharm
BrentWRose:
@richmeyer I agree too. But its hard to get digital talent to pharma. Who wants a big slice of frustration? #socpharm
richmeyer:
@BrentWRose Exactly nobody in their right mind wants to work in pharma now #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@BrentWRose Anyone can use SM to market basic consumer goods, it takes someone who likes a challenge & has smarts to do pharma! #socpharm
earl20:
@BrentWRose @richmeyer There are digital evangelists within pharma. They need to be supported and encouraged by their co’s. #socpharm
BrentWRose:
@richmeyer note to self…update resume…consider new trade…#socpharm
richmeyer:
From what I am seeing now the market is real hot for digital marketing talent so why would anyone want to go to pharma ? #socpharm
richmeyer:
@Earl20 @BrentWRose Yes but they dont want to rock boat too much cause they live in fear #socpharm
BrentWRose:
stability? oops,newermind…RT @richmeyer @Earl20 @BrentWRose Yes but they dont want to rock boat too much cause they live in fear #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@richmeyer It’s a fascinating space w/a unique challenge & potential to make a difference. Who wouldn’t want to? #socpharm #Idrankcoolaid
Earl20:
@richmeyer Some yes but not all. Some hit the speaking circuit and some are successful getting their execs engaged. #socpharm
richmeyer:
What we do is so damn important to people and yet we’re consistently fighting city hall for basics #socpharm
richmeyer:
@Earl20 Dont get me started on the people from agencies that hit speaking when they should be doing instead of talking #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Big thanks to @earl20 for guest moderating tonight. I’ll let you know when I post the transcript. #socpharm
PR_in_Pink:
Thanks everyone for the great convo! Lots to think about about and ponder…
#socpharm
richmeyer:
@BrentWRose No we need to be the voice of people who want help making healthcare choices #socpharm
BrentWRose:
Ok #socpharm, need to end on a high note…youre bringing me down!
agDesignNetwork:
FDA approves radiology app for doctors — http://bit.ly/fdgvaV #fdasm, #epharma, #socpharm
Earl20:
if pharmacos are patient centered then they have a responsibility to engage. Otherwise their patients suffer. #socpharm
richmeyer:
@EileenOBrien Those people who are not passionate #socpharm #Idrankcoolaid
BrentWRose:
Gnite #socpharm we live to fight another day…
DrJonathan:
Going from #socpharm chat right into #dsma chat!

