EileenOBrien:
Hello #socpharm! It’s time to talk pharma/biotech marketing & social media. Please say hello & introduce yourself.
EileenOBrien:
We?ll assume that all tweets within #socpharm are your own and not your employers (unless you specifically declare them).
CiaranSB:
Ciaran’s here – a mom and a blogger – put not for compensation! #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@CiaranSB Hi Ciaran! Wonder if everyone else is exhausted from #SXSWh to join #socpharm chat tonight
CiaranSB:
Could be – twitter was on fire the last few days. #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
T1 ingreasingly pharma companies using celebrities, here Sanofi pulls in NBA: http://bit.ly/i9Et5R Does it make a difference? #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Q1 If celebrities are doing the work pro bono I think it can be v effective to get attention around a cause, but what abt a brand? #socpharm
CiaranSB:
@EileenOBrien T1 Agree if celeb working pro bono for a cause – it offers yet another layer and “validation” of the condition #socpharm
richmeyer:
celebrities can be effective if it is done right. In research Sally Field tested really well for Boniva #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Especially around vaccines which have had celebrities said the opposite. #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@richmeyer Hi Rich! Well, with Sally Field: they like her, they really really like her
#socpharm
richmeyer:
@EileenOBrien yeah exactly she is likeable #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
My only fear with an NBA player (or any celebrity) would be the possibility of bad behavior. #socpharm
CiaranSB:
Howie Mandell for AHDA – again, if they have condition it can be powerful. LOL @EileenOBrien re Sally Field #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@CiaranSB Good point, if you have someone who can represent the disease, like Michael J. Fox, & bring attention to it. #socpharm
richmeyer:
@EileenOBrien That is distinct problem look what happened to AFLAC because of Gilbert Godfriend comments #socpharm
richmeyer:
Also look what happened to Chysler when you have agency do your social media #socpharm
CiaranSB:
Thank God Charlie Sheen wasn’t promoting any conditions… #socpharm
richmeyer:
@CiaranSB Ahh but he is he is an example of how mental illness is misunderstood #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Brand can be badly represented by anyone, not just celebrity (altho usually makes headlines) ie Chrysler http://bit.ly/h2s4KT #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@richmeyer My thought exactly!!! #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Should the agency woman who made Chrysler error have been fired? Agency fired? #socpharm
CiaranSB:
@richmeyer re: Ahh but he is he is an example of how mental illness is misunderstood – Indeed, indeed #socpharm
richmeyer:
@EileenOBrien Yes the person was fired there is no excuse for dropping the F bomb #socpharm
richmeyer:
@CiaranSB yes mental illness is misunderstood #socpharm
CiaranSB:
@EileenOBrien Yes def should have been fired – she has great responsibility to the company she represents – not just the f bomb #socpharm
richmeyer:
@CiaranSB @EileenOBrien An agency should not be the voice of your brand via social media #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@richmeyer What about in collaboration with the company? #socpharm
richmeyer:
@EileenOBrien I believe people want to talk to the brand not someone who works for their agency #socpharm
richmeyer:
@EileenOBrien Plus Facebook allows you to put a face on who you are talking to #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@richmeyer Yes, but we’re not always “talking” back & forth at this point
#socpharm
richmeyer:
What does everyone think of Vertex unbranded site for Hep C ? #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@richmeyer I’ve been meaning to check it out — do you have the link? #socpharm
CiaranSB:
@richmeyer I disagree with the brand on twitter – I don’t think there is the same sort of “talking” or hearing from individual #socpharm
richmeyer:
@EileenOBrien http://bit.ly/eURGR8 #socpharm It’s really done well
richmeyer:
@CiaranSB Some brands dont talk they push info but people respond to people not brands #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
At first glance really like the page ratings. Go @shwen! RT @richmeyer: http://bit.ly/eURGR8#socpharm It’s really done well
richmeyer:
@CiaranSB 95% of people who friend a brand on Facebook only visit the page once #socpharm
CiaranSB:
@richmeyer totally agree that brands push info – which is why agency is OK for that – same as PR #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Saw that, but where is stat from? RT @richmeyer: @CiaranSB 95% of people who friend a brand on Facebook only visit page once #socpharm
richmeyer:
@EileenOBrien @shwen beter than the unbranded site by Boston Scientific it is amateur hour #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Q3 Mommy bloggers getting paid to review app http://bit.ly/fEjeUA Ethical? Effective? Eh? #socpharm
richmeyer:
@EileenOBrien From Facebook itself #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@richmeyer AHA! Thanks. #socpharm
richmeyer:
@EileenOBrien Sure as long as we hear the good and the bad #socpharm
JaeSelle:
so well organized. great market development effort RT @richmeyer What does everyone think of Vertex unbranded site for Hep C ? #socpharm
richmeyer:
@richmeyer @EileenOBrien car companies have been loaning people cars and asking them to BLOG their impressions #socpharm
CiaranSB:
Q3: @richmeyer and the disclaimer. I think similar to celeb endorsing product (full circle, eh?) #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Q3 I agree, think it’s absolutely fine. Not sure why the kerfuffle #socpharm
richmeyer:
@CiaranSB yeah I think it depends on the product and the celeb #socpharm
JaeSelle:
this is very common RT @EileenOBrien Q3 Mommy bloggers getting paid to review apphttp://bit.ly/fEjeUA Ethical? Effective? #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@JaeSelle Hi Jess! Agree, been meaning to take a thorough review of it. #socpharm
richmeyer:
here in Ca commercials are running with Kobi Bryant for Turkish Airlines #socpharm
JaeSelle:
I would like to see the link to the stat, do you have it? RT @richmeyer: @EileenOBrien From Facebook itself #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@richmeyer Seriously? People have such short memories and/or will forgive sports heros anything. #socpharm
richmeyer:
When it comes to branding and purchase decisions woman still rule #socpharm
richmeyer:
@EileenOBrien yes shows him sitting in 1st class and getting a gourmet meal #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Thanks Stephany! RT @soulflsepulcher: @EileenOBrien hi just an fyi -here’s mom blogger frm the article on twitter @MissyBerggren #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@richmeyer Definitely in health care, women are the key decision makers. #socpharm
JaeSelle:
FTC guidance in 2009 secured public transparency for blogger post for $$. Blogger outreach is an accepted form of social mktg #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@JaeSelle I agree, wasn’t sure why people were so upset. It wasn’t even a prescription drug #socpharm
richmeyer:
Can everyone believe how the FDA is dragging their feet on social media guideline #socpharm
richmeyer:
When blockbusters come off patent more layoffs a lot more layoffs !! #socpharm
CiaranSB:
@richmeyer Unfortunately, I can believe how long for FDA guidelines #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
What’s great is that in the absence of FDA guidelines companies are making nice strides & moving forward. #socpharm BTW, drink
JaeSelle:
@EileenOBrien think b/c mostly occurs in the “real” consumer world & pharma hasnt had an all out entrance into “$ for post” yet #socpharm
richmeyer:
@CiaranSB it’s too bad cause it is making marketers afraid to try new marketing #socpharm
soulflsepulcher:
@EileenOBrien you’re welcome! reading along tonight at #socpharm i agree FDA is taking too long w the sm guidelines
CiaranSB:
@EileenOBrien hear, hear, and cheers #socpharm
richmeyer:
@EileenOBrien It is dumb to not allow the one click rule to fair balance as if someone is going to act on a Tweet #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@richmeyer They are allowing it now for Black Box drugs in special Google PPC ads, so I think they may concede the point. #socpharm
richmeyer:
Some companies are saying we need to innovate but others are still sitting on the sidelines #socpharm
JaeSelle:
@EileenOBrien right b/c Similac is OTC & not an Rx, they don’t have to worry a/b blogger outreach/reviews sighting AEs. #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Merck & others doing Corporate Social Responsibility campaigns: http://bit.ly/gFGlrP Worthy? Overdue? Authentic? What do you think #socpharm
richmeyer:
When I presented to FDA almost two years ago now I told them they need to hire some marketing people and was pushed back hard #socpharm
richmeyer:
@EileenOBrien Waste of money people aren’t buying it #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@JaeSelle Absolutely, send to FDA before running & google adds special risk line in for you w/link to safety info. Google Plavix #socpharm
JaeSelle:
RT @EileenOBrien: @JaeSelle Absolutely, send to FDA before running & google adds special risk line in for you w/link to safety info. Google Plavix #socpharm
JaeSelle:
@EileenOBrien I must have totally missed that new rule/ announcement by Google THANK YOU for sharing! #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@JaeSelle Google the drug Plavix to see a current example. Yaz was doing it, plus others. Google adds in that extra line #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@JaeSelle There was no formal announcement, it was very quietly rolled out by Yaz & then others. Google reps told me
#socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Also makes me think, since FDA are reviewing these before they go live, that they might allow “reminder ads” for black box drugs #socpharm
soulflsepulcher:
@EileenOBrien plavix is good example of google ad stating a black box warning; also google ‘seroquel’ black box example on ad #socpharm
richmeyer:
Thanks again everyone I keep learning from chats like these and hope to make a difference in patients lives #socpharm
JaeSelle:
@EileenOBrien just googled Yaz & Plavix. really great examples, both of them, even how they are handling organic meta data thx
#socpharm
CiaranSB:
RT @JaeSelle: just googled Yaz & Plavix. really great examples, both of them, even how they are handling organic meta data #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@MissyBerggren Hi Missy, we were talking about the MM&M article re Similac paying for app reviews. #socpharm
soulflsepulcher:
@MissyBerggren hello! #socpharm topic of paid blogging
EileenOBrien:
@MissyBerggren As long as it’s disclosed, I think people will view it like another paid ad. #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Thanks for another invigorating chat. Next week @richmeyer will be guest moderator for #socpharm. Sure he’ll have controversial topics
soulflsepulcher:
@EileenOBrien thanks another good chat kudos to you, Eileen, always remembers my name and spelled correctly!
#socpharm
richmeyer:
@EileenOBrien
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CiaranSB:
@EileenOBrien Thanks, Eileen! Good stuff. #socpharm
MissyBerggren:
@soulflsepulcher @eileenobrien I don’t take issue with pd blogger campaigns in general, but fine line re: drugs/formula. #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Then on March 30, @@JimLefevere from @roche_com will be our guest moderator. Plus @jercolino & @pharmaguy are also booked for #socpharm
MissyBerggren:
@eileenobrien agree, although certainly still influences people. The WHO recommends NO mktg/ advertising for formula, period. #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@MissyBerggren Agree, drugs/formula should be taken very seriously. Wasn’t aware of WHO recommendation. #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@MissyBerggren Thanks for joining in the convo. Always enjoy talking/learning #socpharm
MissyBerggren:
@eileenobrien obv #bf is a public health issue & #bf rates increase/decrease are potentially influenced by formula mktg. #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@MissyBerggren I’ll date myself, but back in high school, the nuns had us boycotting Nestle candy because of formula marketing. #socpharm
nicolaziady:
RT @SamBrownInc: Pew Internet on peer-to-peer healthcare -> http://t.co/R37TCLq #socpharm#epharma #healthcare
healthystartups:
Is #socpharm wrapped?
EileenOBrien:
@healthystartups Yes we chat for 1 hour starting at 5 pm PST / 7 pm CST / 8 pm EST. We’ll be here next Wed
#socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@MissyBerggren Crazy! I had no idea. We chat pharma/biotech marketing & sm at #socpharm every Wed at 8 pm EST. Join in!
JaeSelle:
did not know this RT @MissyBerggren certainly still influences ppl. The WHO recommends NO mktg/ advertising for formula, period. #socpharm
MissyBerggren:
Enjoyed chatting with #socpharm marketing chat tonight re: formula comp’s marketing strategies via social media & WHO Code. #breastfeeding
mfp24:
RT @EileenOBrien: Thanks for another invigorating chat. Next week @richmeyer will be guest moderator for #socpharm. Sure he’ll have controversial topics
mfp24:
RT @richmeyer: @CiaranSB @EileenOBrien An agency should not be the voice of your brand via social media #socpharm

