EileenOBrien:
It’s 8 pm ET that means its time for the pharma marketing & social media chat #socpharm! Welcome & intro yourself. 5/5/2010 19:02
EileenOBrien:
Please note we’ll assume that all tweets within #socpharm are your own and not your employers (unless you specifically declare them)
EileenOBrien:
I’m Eileen, work at Siren Interactive on strategy/search for pharma companies who have therapies for rare diseases. #socpharm
TheRealDanSfera:
Im Dan I work in the clinical trials industry from the site level and have dedicated a blog towards demystifying the topic #socpharm
odomlewis:
Hello Eileen & #socpharm community, Angela Dunn here, Dir Social Media @odomlewis, exec search #healthcare comm & #pharma mktg #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
T1: Unfortunately there’s been another @McNeilRecall & consumers are taking to sm: http://bit.ly/bHj8RA What can McNeil do? #socpharm
jbselz:
I’m Joel, Co-Founder & CEO of @Ozmosis, the Trusted Physician’s Network, looking forward to another great #socpharm discussion
EileenOBrien:
T1: Twitter acct set up to handle last recall (@McNeilRecall) has been called back into service w/links to new press release. #socpharm
odomlewis:
Agree w/ @adage “need 2 be honest about happened & let public know it will do everything…2 make products as safe as can be.” #socpharm
heldincontempt:
Hi, everyone, sorry I’m late. Heather, compliance attorney at DSI. #socpharm
MarksPhone:
Mark Dimor Applying principles of MD learning & med education across the evolving spectrum of medical communication and promotion #socpharm
jbselz:
@EileenOBrien @odomlewis – i agree, they need to be honest & transparent about what happened & how they are responding to concerns #socpharm
TheRealDanSfera:
@heldincontempt authenticity, honesty, and acting like human beings not a behemoth corporation will be good for J&J during this #socpharm
MarksPhone:
SM is only one part of a larger issue w/J&J. SM can help to pull the public into place to help manage the specifics of recall #socpharm
odomlewis:
RT @TheRealDanSfera: authenticity, honesty & acting like human beings….will be good 4 J&J during this #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
T1: Amazing how consumers are so savvy today, the Ad Age article quoted guy who slammed McNeil for releasing news on Friday night #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:17
jbselz:
@EileenOBrien @odomlewis – J&J is often cited as a #socpharm leader & they need to be much more proactive reaching out to concerned parents 5/5/2010 19:17
odomlewis:
@EileenOBrien Yes, agree! Consumers are getting more & more savvy. #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:18
EileenOBrien:
Is the overall J&J plan crisis plan working here? What about the 800 number being busy? #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:19
MarksPhone:
@jbselz I agree J&J is a leader with caregiver issues as well but this plant issue smacks of China etc. And an 800# busy? #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:19
heldincontempt:
T1: Many of my mom friends were irritated that the refund info wasn’t posted until well after J&J advised tossing affected meds. #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:20
MarksPhone:
The bigger question is this ‘If you cant trust J&J band who can you trust’ #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:21
odomlewis:
RT @odomlewis: @jbselz Agree, every1 has been impressed w/ @JnJcomm & they need 2 maintain that position of leadership. #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:23
EileenOBrien:
The plant is in Pennsylvania! If you read details in the Washington Post article it’s very nasty: http://bit.ly/bHj8RA #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:23
MarksPhone:
And apparently the FDA spoke about the plant issues months ago. #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:24
EileenOBrien:
True! RT @MarksPhone: The bigger question is this ‘If you cant trust J&J brand who can you trust’ #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:24
EileenOBrien:
How much does everyone think this will damage the J&J reputation? #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:24
jbselz:
@MarksPhone @odomlewis surprising contrast from their superb handling of the tylenol recall in the 80s, to now, esp for a #socpharm leader 5/5/2010 19:25
odomlewis:
Having some tweetchat problems. #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:25
MarksPhone:
JnJcoom may be good but that is after the fact. The bigger issue is what happened why and what they are going to do. #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:25
EileenOBrien:
@jbselz And they just had practice with a similar situation a few months ago! #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:26
MarksPhone:
I think the damage is huge. This is a child centric country. Has or will anyone trust toys made in China? #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:27
odomlewis:
@jbslelz @MarksPhone @EileenOBrien Times like these are a test whether you truly care about your customers. #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:28
MarksPhone:
@jbselz corporations are organic back then they were different today is a whole new generation of managers… managers w/FB accts #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:28
heldincontempt:
Interesting to me how J&J and Sanofi, considered to be SM pioneers, have stumbled in dealing with these issues of late. #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:29
MarksPhone:
@odomlewis if you cared about customers you dont let the FDA site your plant x number of times you step in front of it #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:30
EileenOBrien:
T2: AstraZeneca blog monitoring database was hacked: http://bit.ly/cXlA1B. Do pts have right to be upset we’re listening? #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:31
jbselz:
@EileenOBrien @MarksPhone agreed, they need to find a better way to capture and share institutional knowledge #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:31
odomlewis:
@heidincontempt Issue has been a lot of social media theory, the test will be case studies this year. No one is an expert. #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:32
MarksPhone:
@heldincontempt it is not about being SM pioneers it’s the fact we are smarter and better connected. & angry about corporate dumb #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:32
odomlewis:
@MarksPhone Always good to be proactive. #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:33
MarksPhone:
T2 we ARE listening and are smart…pharma cant deal with that. They need a better strategy with patients and caregivers NOT SM #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:35
friedah03:
Frieda Hernandez here joining late #socpharm. Looks like some good topics as usual. 5/5/2010 19:35
sharingstrength:
RT @EileenOBrien: T2: AstraZeneca blog monitoring database was hacked: http://bit.ly/cXlA1B. Do pts have right to be upset we’re listening? #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:36
odomlewis:
@friedah03 Good to see you, Frieda! #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:36
sharingstrength:
RT @MarksPhone: T2 we ARE listening and are smart…pharma cant deal with that. They need a better strategy with patients and caregivers NOT SM #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:37
EileenOBrien:
@MarksPhone This blogger took offense that what he wrote was being monitored & used by pharma to craft response. Is that legit? #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:37
sharingstrength:
Colleen Young, also joining late. #socpharm. 5/5/2010 19:37
MarksPhone:
It is a strategic issue of what to do in this brave new world. These mistakes will guide changes in what patients want #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:38
EileenOBrien:
T2: I always thought the point of a blog was getting people to pay attention to your point of view! #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:38
sharingstrength:
RT @EileenOBrien: T2: I always thought the point of a blog was getting people to pay attention to your point of view! #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:38
odomlewis:
Having your moral compass in the right direction is always a good SM strategy. #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:39
sharingstrength:
T2: Shouldn’t pharma be listening? Isn’t that what we’re asking them to do? #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:39
MarksPhone:
I think the question is what is a good strategy for brand enhancement with patients and caregivers, not data mining & list capture #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:39
EileenOBrien:
Good advice! RT @odomlewis: Having your moral compass in the right direction is always a good SM strategy. #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:40
sharingstrength:
RT @EileenOBrien: Good advice! RT @odomlewis: Having your moral compass in the right direction is always a good SM strategy. #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:40
sharingstrength:
RT @MarksPhone: I think the question is what is a good strategy for brand enhancement with patients and caregivers, not data mining & list capture #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:41
friedah03:
Amen RT @odomlewis: Having your moral compass in the right direction is always a good SM strategy. #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:41
odomlewis:
@sharingstrength Hi Colleen, always gr8 to see you. #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:42
MarksPhone:
in a crisis you can only listen so much because of the degree of intensity. Pharma listening is passive. #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:42
sharingstrength:
Likewise Angela RT @odomlewis @sharingstrength Hi Colleen, always gr8 to see you. #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:43
friedah03:
Agreed RT @sharingstrength: T2: Shouldn’t pharma be listening? Isn’t that what we’re asking them to do? #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:45
jbselz:
@sharingstrength @MarksPhone as we’ve discussed before, pharma needs to be proactive & focus on engagement not just listening #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:46
MarksPhone:
Listening is a PR action. They have not created a bank of credit with consumers #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:47
odomlewis:
RT @jbselz as we’ve discussed before, pharma needs to be proactive & focus on engagement not just listening #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:48
EileenOBrien:
@odomlewis Angela, u’ve inspired me. W/ ur permission, I’m going to blog on having a moral compass in right direction driving sm #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:48
MarksPhone:
engagement post is harder, they should be engaged before to create that credit of good will #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:49
sharingstrength:
@jbselz Absolutely, but it starts with listening then engagement. Only listening is just spying. #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:49
friedah03:
T2 IMO not at all clear that the AZ database was hackd. Managd by PR firm, may have bn posting info whr it cd B found thru search #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:50
odomlewis:
@EileenOBrien Well, thank you! Part of core values, methinks.
#socpharm 5/5/2010 19:50
EileenOBrien:
@sharingstrength I don’t know if listening is spying. We’re putting out this info on the Interwebs! People will read it… #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:51
sharingstrength:
@MarksPhone to create that credit of good will they could set up a platform to let pts talk. Then listen. Then engage. #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:52
friedah03:
@odomlewis Thanks for the warm welcome. It’s mutual. #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:52
odomlewis:
Part of listening is biz intelligence. Use it 2 make yourself better. No point in listening without change, even b4 engagement. #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:54
sharingstrength:
RT @odomlewis: Part of listening is biz intelligence. Use it 2 make yourself better. No point in listening without change, even b4 engagement. #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:54
MarksPhone:
I agree talking is good listening is good. What happens to enhance what is heard w/o looking like ur co-opting #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:55
MarksPhone:
If I was the brand manager I would tweet from the plant and the workers about what we are doing to fix it #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:55
MarksPhone:
Connect my j&j family with yours #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:56
sharingstrength:
@odomlewis completely agree. That’s what I wanted to say when I used the word ‘spying’. Listen & change w/ moral compass #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:57
jbselz:
@EileenOBrien @sharingstrength there’s nothing wrong w/ listening, it’s a step toward engagement, just keep em moving forward
#socpharm 5/5/2010 19:57
odomlewis:
Like this! RT @MarksPhone If I was brand manager I would tweet from plant & the workers about what we are doing to fix it #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:57
EileenOBrien:
Great ideas. And since this is over the counter J&J could do it. RT @MarksPhone: Connect my j&j family with yours #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:57
EileenOBrien:
Wow, where did the time go? Another #socpharm flew by. Hope to tweet with you again next Wed at 8 pm EST. Let me know if u have topic ideas 5/5/2010 19:59
TheRealDanSfera:
engaging is key! Listening is one thing, but CARING and giving a f*** is quite another. having phone #’s busy is not ok #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:59
odomlewis:
RT @EileenOBrien: Wow, where did the time go? Another #socpharm flew by. Hope 2 tweet with you again next Wed 8 pm EST…. #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:59
MarksPhone:
make those in the plant and on the line my messenger with a stake in fixing it. Put a face on the fix #socpharm 5/5/2010 19:59
sharingstrength:
RT @MarksPhone: make those in the plant and on the line my messenger with a stake in fixing it. Put a face on the fix #socpharm 5/5/2010 20:00
friedah03:
I very much agree RT @MarksPhone: engagement post is harder, they should be engaged before to create that credit of good will #socpharm 5/5/2010 20:00
jbselz:
@MarksPhone i agree, i’d also use the @McNeilRecall account to reach out to concerned parties, its a missed opportunity #socpharm 5/5/2010 20:00
odomlewis:
Thank U @EileenOBrien & everyone @ #socpharm. These discussions get better & better every week! #socpharm 5/5/2010 20:01
sharingstrength:
@EileenOBrien Thank you. I look forward to joining #socpharm again. 5/5/2010 20:01
friedah03:
RT @TheRealDanSfera: engagng is key! Listenng is 1 thing, but CARING & gving a f*** is quite another. havng phn #’s busy is not ok #socpharm 5/5/2010 20:03
EileenOBrien:
Thanks everyone, I’m off to have a margarita for Cinco de Mayo! #socpharm 5/5/2010 20:04
friedah03:
I second that! RT @odomlewis: Thank U @EileenOBrien & everyone @ #socpharm. These discussions get better & better every week! #socpharm 5/5/2010 20:05
jbselz:
Thanks @EileenOBrien & everyone, yet another great #socpharm discussion…hope to see u at #bdi next week in NY 5/5/2010 20:14

