pharmalot:
Hi folks and welcome to the marketing & social media pharma chat #socpharm Please start w/intros & why u are interested in this.
pharmalot:
I’m the guest host tonight, but would happily welcome topics to discuss. Oh yeah, Eileen says hi #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Thanks to @pharmalot for guest moderating tonight while I’m on a boat party! #socpharm
MarksPhone:
Mark applying adult learning theory 2 physician education, patients search 4 answers, & communications to improve HC and outcomes #socpharm
pharmalot:
hi mark….nice to see you here #socpharm anyone notice that online pharma & health spending is growing slowly? http://bit.ly/9ZgcXW
friedah03:
I’m on the boat with @eileenobrien. Will be checking in occassionally! #socpharm
GCPworks:
Hi, Tina Chiodo, clinical research consultant interested in learning strategies and how to apply to clinical trial recruitment #socpharm
MarksPhone:
I have noticed that. I think it is clear from the ACCME data online is where physicians are turning for edu. #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@pharmalot interactive spend is such a small percentage of spend compared to time spent online by consumers. #socpharm
DrJudyStone:
Hi, Ed, Interested in encouraging people to volunteer-hard, given incr lack of trust in Pharma. Thx. Dr Judy Stone #socpharm
pharmalot:
i would imagine consumers are spending more time online for info than docs, though… am i wrong? #socpharm
pharmalot:
hi judy…nice to see you…. volunteer for what? clinical trials? #socpharm here’s something about motivation = http://bit.ly/9HIB7o
MarksPhone:
online should be part of a well managed strategic plan and marketing mix. It strikes me some of it just random #socpharm
jilliantate:
Hi, just joining – Jillian @ Integrated Media Solutions, we handle DR pharma campaigns #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@pharmalot actually new study shows that docs are online a lot for prof reasons: http://bit.ly/9JsZWJ #socpharm
MarksPhone:
MDs spend a ton o time online. Look at the data but unlike consumers they are focused on sites they trust and know. #socpharm
MarksPhone:
when physicians go online to find answers to problems they go to trusted friends or sites. and learning is staged #socpharm
GCPworks:
@MarksPhone How do consumers know which sites to trust? #socpharm
TheRealDanSfera:
in a few years this question will be irrelevant. Its like asking if MD’s watch tv or listen to the radio, uhhh we all do #socpharm
jilliantate:
Manhattan Research had some great slides on the role of the internet for patients & docs http://bit.ly/c0md4Y #socpharm
pharmalot:
hey eileen – r u referring to this survey? http://bit.ly/9JCNqo #socpharm
DrJudyStone:
@pharmalot Yes, clin trials. Thx. Guess I’m a day late. Your column is my eve read! #socpharm It would also scare me away from trials
MarksPhone:
@GCPworks that is the question. like other adult learners seek solutions to problems and go where they trust and who they trust #socpharm
A0K:
@pharmalot cool link. what’s T1? just organic convo flow re: MDs online? #socpharm
pharmalot:
@marksphone i don’t presume to know the answer… anecdotally, i think most people are skeptical #socpharm
A0K:
@jilliantate yes! @manhattanresear‘s taking the pulse study has fantastic segmented data by specialty, age, #UX archetype etc #socpharm
GCPworks:
RT @jilliantate Manhattan Research had some great slides on the role of the internet for patients & docs http://bit.ly/c0md4Y -thx #socpharm
pharmalot:
so far, yeah…T1 is just sort of evolving…but hey, i’m new to hosting tweetchats and open to all sorts of suggestions #socpharm
DrJudyStone:
@MarksPhone Suspect they start with WebMD & Mayo. Would like to encourage use of UptoDate & Medpedia-excellent resources #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Yup! RT @pharmalot: hey eileen – r u referring to this survey? http://bit.ly/9JCNqo #socpharm
MarksPhone:
twitter is acting up #socpharm
MarksPhone:
@pharmalot skeptical of pharma? I agree but pharma is not a place for general HC knowledge it is for Tx knowledge #socpharm
pharmalot:
rt@jilliantate those slides are interesting, but how consumers determine which sites to trust is an open question, i suppose #socpharm
GCPworks:
@MarksPhone do you know if government sites (NIH, etc.) are perceived as more reliable and valuable? #socpharm
jilliantate:
@pharmalot Totally agree – how do consumers find objective research & info in a subjective internet #socpharm
MarksPhone:
@DrJudyStone i think the first order of business is to help consumers learn to critically appraise data and knowledge #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@DrJudyStone my sister is NP & loves Up To Date but only has access because subscription is paid for her. #socpharm
jilliantate:
@pharmalot Worse, how do consumers avoid false & misleading information from non-doctors? #socpharm
MarksPhone:
@GCPworks yes I do know. What is of issue is does a HS educated single mother of 3 w/ lung know to go there and what to do? #socpharm
pharmalot:
@marksphone i don’t have data or special insights, but i would imagine many do think gov’t data is reliable #socpharm won’t mention t party
JaeSelle:
@pharmalot what bothers me a/b the Pharma digi spend studies: no breakdown of what is being spent on what “media” is too vague IMO #socpharm
jilliantate:
Should it be the pharma companies responsibility to make sure they have an SEO optimized site for all products? #socpharm
MarksPhone:
All HC is local, leave national planning to Dr. Pepper Think in terms of one practice one community one patient not a nation.#socpharm
DrJudyStone:
@EileenOBrien UpToDate has free patient info #socpharm
pharmalot:
hi jaeselle – that’s a good point….i have to hunt to find such data… #socpharm
pharmalot:
@jilliantate – good question and so what do you think? should pharma be responsible for SEO optimized sites for all products? #socpharm
jilliantate:
@A0K Not just for traffic though…but so the public can find an “official” source of info for pharma products #socpharm
MarksPhone:
I think pharma has the opportunity to create amazing hc strategies to improve outcomes but they are focused on brand/disease #socpharm
GCPworks:
RT @MarksPhone: All HC is local … Think in terms of one practice one community one patient not a nation.#socpharm #socpharm
A0K:
@pharmalot @jaeselle is right. in 2009 both #forrester & @juniperresearch had GREAT breakouts of verticals by #media cc: @marina81 #socpharm
DrJudyStone:
@MarksPhone how can consumers critically appraise info–it is near impossible for most docs! #socpharm
pharmalot:
@marksphone improved outcomes has been a missed opportunity for quite some time, it would seem #socpharm
A0K:
@jilliantate then absolutely it’s pharma co’s job. esp where accurate data finding is concerned. but in a way that’s traffic too #socpharm
MarksPhone:
if pharma applied knowledge translation to phase III trials to learn the needs both MDs and patients had and used it strategically #socpharm
TheRealDanSfera:
@MarksPhone wouldnt that be more suited for phase 4 trials? #socpharm
MarksPhone:
@pharmalot outcomes of brand x vs. placebo is one thing outcomes of improved patient behavior is another #socpharm
pharmalot:
so how does pharma convince the public to trust its info? #socpharm
MarksPhone:
@TheRealDanSfera it is not post marketing learning. look at clinicaltrials.gov and search knowledge translation amazing! #socpharm
A0K:
@pharmalot pharma gets public to trust its info by making info credible. I’ve done it by including other product info in unbranded #socpharm
imonaboat:
TWEET! #imonaboat:-> Thanks to @pharmalot for guest moderating tonight while I’m on a boat party! #socpharm http://ow.ly/18PhN7
MarksPhone:
@pharmalot pharma should not do info, do knowledge its different. help consumers solve problems by knowing what they want to learn #socpharm
friedah03:
RT @MarksPhone: I think pharma has the opp 2 create amazing hc strategies 2 improve outcomes but they r focused on brand/disease #socpharm
pharmalot:
@marksphone that’s a good point – its really all about solutions to problems #socpharm
pharmalot:
You’re welcome eileen…. for the record, i’m not on a boat just on #socpharm
pharmalot:
@aOk what do you mean by other product info ? comparative sorts of stuff? #socpharm
A0K:
@MarksPhone YES! knowledge vs. info is so smart & by including competitive brands it becomes about helping not pushing their drug. #socpharm
MarksPhone:
@pharmalot for pharma to change how they are viewed they need to not look at what happened but why #socpharm
MarksPhone:
@pharmalot why r MDs or consumers behaving or doing xyz script tracking is not telling you why just what & it reinforces behavior #socpharm
JaeSelle:
@pharmalot did you get hijacked by a tweetboat? haha (couldnt resist- i love twitter spam) #socpharm
A0K:
@pharmalot ex. for a migraine disease state website, include ALL brands out there & MOA’s not just the pharma company’s own drug. #socpharm
JaeSelle:
@MarksPhone agree yes, yes would you agree that HOW the knowledge is shared makes a difference.? direct vs indirect/3rd party? #socpharm
TheRealDanSfera:
@A0K #socpharm that could work but lots of legal issues. why not just have an expert on med condition provide daily content thats beneficial MarksPhone: HK Slotnick said ‘brand share should be 100% of people it will benefit, not 100% of entire category makes a difference #socpharm
GCPworks:
@JaeSelle I was wondering what that was… #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Pharma can also gain trust by partnering with “trust agent” patient org or prof association. #socpharm
pharmalot:
@marksphone yes, although that would take awhile… @aOk gotcha … good idea…. and you’re saying its been shown to work? #socpharm
MarksPhone:
@JaeSelle 2 fundamental principles of learning is affect & social. the more social & relevant the learning the greater the affect. #socpharm
JaeSelle:
@MarksPhone HK Slotnik is right. it’s understanding opportunity/segmentation and driving after largest opp 4 impact #socpharm #segmentation
pharmalot:
@marksphone 100% of brand share vs 100% of category sounds a little like personalized medicine #socpharm
MarksPhone:
@EileenOBrien trust agents partner to help members and off set costs. AHA gave coke a heart healthy seal. LOL #socpharm
JaeSelle:
YES 100% 3rd party credibility RT @EileenOBrien Pharma can also gain trust by partnering w/”trust agent” patient org or prof assoc #socpharm
pharmalot:
@eileenOBrien trust agents can probably work if there’s sufficient independence #socpharm
MarksPhone:
@JaeSelle and understanding the problems MDs and consumers want to solve and delivering it in a way that creates knowledge uptake #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@MarksPhone I would HOPE org would have more integrity & concern for their rep! Will quickly lose trust agent status otherwise. #socpharm
JaeSelle:
isnt that twitter is? haha (again couldnt resist)1st RT @TheRealDanSfera @A0K #socpharm expert provide daily content/beneficial to community A0K: @pharmalot yes putting competitive products in non branded works! = “we want you to find a drug that works even if its not ours!” #socpharm
A0K:
@TheRealDanSfera there is no legal that prevents the competitive cross-category “transparency” angle from working with DTC / DTP #socpharm
pharmalot:
trust is easily undermined though #socpharm
TheRealDanSfera:
@a0k then that would be amazing, but i doubt pharma has the cajones for that! there is no substitute for GREAT content #socpharm
pharmalot:
@aOK but is there data showing that approach builds market share? #socpharm
MarksPhone:
thanks all, great chat #socpharm
pharmalot:
@marksphone … thanks for stopping by #socpharm
A0K:
@JaeSelle yep. and that sucks. but oh well. and hey by the way! you’re one smart cookie.
#socpharm
pharmalot:
it’s about that time, folks….thank you all for stopping by my first time as host of a tweetchat… it’s been real… #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Great job guest moderating #socpharm @pharmalot. Thanks so much.
pharmalot:
@AOK sorry, I only have one good eye #socpharm
A0K:
@pharmalot it builds marketshare because u (of course) stack it so that the site features extra – rich edu modules on your drug #socpharm
DrJudyStone:
@pharmalot Thx to you for hosting-my first chat visit–and for your great posts #socpharm
GCPworks:
thanks all, interesting and informative chat as always #socpharm
JaeSelle:
hahaha @A0K i dont know that i’m smart, but i like cookies and i just have a lot of passionate opinions, i love my job
#socpharm
JaeSelle:
@pharmalot @EileenOBrien thank you for hosting #socpharm, im sorry to have missed it for 3 months!
A0K:
No worries, just reply to the tweet w/ tweetdeck to keep make it simpler
RT @pharmalot @AOK sorry, I only have one good eye #socpharm
A0K:
@DrJudyStone thanks for joining #socpharm! I’m so excited that physicians like you are on #twitter & thanks to @pharmalot for modding
A0K:
@JaeSelle belated reply: totally agree re: non-branded not always being the right fit. #socpharm

