CherylAnnBorne:
Welcome to the marketing & social media pharma chat (#socpharm). Plse start w/intros & why u are interested in this.
CherylAnnBorne:
We’ll assume that all tweets within #socpharm are your own and not your employers (unless you specifically declare them)
EileenOBrien:
Thanks @cherylannborne for guest moderating tonight’s #socpharm convo.
EileenOBrien:
I’m Eileen, work for Siren Interactive, agency focusing on #raredisease therapies & love all things social. #socpharm
CherylAnnBorne:
I’m here because I’d like to talk mobile. I foresee the biggest shift in marketing budgets here over next few yrs. #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
I’m Michael Spitz, Senior Digital Strategist with Ignite Health, a full service healthcare communications agency #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
Agreed! We like to say that “mobile is the new social” in both excitement and potential #socpharm
CherylAnnBorne:
Hi Michael, welcome! I’m an eMakreitng Manager at BMS but I’ve been in pharma my entire career #socpharm
CherylAnnBorne:
T1 Sanofi-Aventis gets social with Facebook and diabetes: http://t.co/CIYHXey I like the mobi app #socpharm
CherylAnnBorne:
s-a?s GoMeals Diabetes iPhone App w/restaurant guide, nutrition facts, food trackerhttp://t.co/xXOZPUw #socpharm
richmeyer:
Mobile is the new buzzword for agency people to get more money #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
@eMarketer predicts a 300% increase in mobile ad spend through 2013 #socpharm” target=”_blank”>http://bit.ly/bkrKgT#socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@SpitzStrategy @CherylAnnBorne Do you think it will take as long for $ to shift to mobile as it did/still does for interactive? #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
@richmeyer: Mobile is definitely the new buzz word for coin all around, but it’s also as big a paradigm shift as social media #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Agree, nicely done. RT @CherylAnnBorne: s-a?s GoMeals Diabetes App w/rest guide, nutrition facts, food tracker http://t.co/xXOZPUw #socpharm
richmeyer:
Mobile consumers are young and impatient. They want answers quickly #socpharm
CherylAnnBorne:
How should apps be used from a marketer perspective? #socpharm
richmeyer:
Mobile apps are voluntary and customers have to chose to interact with you #socpharm
TDefren:
Got a nice surprise for those interested in #socpharm tomorrow, on PR-Squared blog.
SpitzStrategy:
@EilleenOBrien: Shift to mobile will be faster than interactive b/c people are used to digital, waiting for gadgets to catch up #socpharm
CherylAnnBorne:
@richmeyer I am not young, but I am impatient and want answers quickly #socpharm
richmeyer:
I just reviewed mobile web traffic to several pharma sites for a client and it was very small #socpharm
CherylAnnBorne:
Agree RT @SpitzStrategy: @EilleenOBrien: Shift to mobile will be faster than interactive b/c people are used to digital, waiting f #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
@richmeyer Mobile traffic to pharma sites is weak because the pharma sites haven’t been optimized for mobile #socpharm
richmeyer:
Since apps are voluntary they have to provide value to end user. Forrester says that almost 75% of apps are deleted after month #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Despite our enthusiasm, Pew study shows few people use apps: http://usat.ly/cNOiCL #socpharm
CherylAnnBorne:
Are mobi sites ahead of their time? #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
We shouldn’t think of mobile as a channel or the “next big thing,” but as THE way people will access ALL information #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
We should think further than apps and repurposed websites: Mobile is redefining how we access our data #socpharm
richmeyer:
Mobile marketing: an example of thinking outside the box | World of DTC Marketing.comhttp://t.co/PAF7rYt #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Good pt. RT @SpitzStrategy: We should think further than apps and repurposed websites: Mobile is redefining how we access our data #socpharm
TDefren:
RT @SpitzStrategy: @eMarketer predicts a 300% increase in mobile ad spend through 2013http://bit.ly/bkrKgT #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
Geolocation is similarly deceptive: It’s not a “feature,” but integral to a complete user experience — give it time #socpharm
richmeyer:
@SpitzStrategy The sites we did the analysis on WERE optimized for mobile #socpharm
richmeyer:
RT @EileenOBrien: Despite our enthusiasm, Pew study shows few people use apps:http://usat.ly/cNOiCL #socpharm
CherylAnnBorne:
Are mobi apps a good investment or is money better spent on mobi ads, mobi sites? #socpharm
CherylAnnBorne:
Borrell: consumers downloading half-million apps every hour w/average having ~22 apps on their mobile #socpharm
richmeyer:
@EileenOBrien Exactly and 75% delete after one month #socpharm
CherylAnnBorne:
Borrell: problem is of 22 apps on a consumer’s phone now, in six months only 1 will still be used #socpharm
richmeyer:
is pharma ready to have a long term relationship with one vendor ? #socpharm Cause they need vendor to update app
SpitzStrategy:
@richmeyer: Fair enough, but user habits aren’t established yet; people aren’t going much to brand.com’s from mobile, are they? #socpharm
CherylAnnBorne:
Nielsen: Far less interest in apps vs using phones to take pix, texting, and access Internet #socpharmhttp://usat.ly/aSYgJT
richmeyer:
There are other mobile marketing opps besides apps #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
There you go! RT @richmeyer: However I had excellent results with a text messaging program #socpharm
CherylAnnBorne:
RT @richmeyer: is pharma ready to have a long term relationship with one vendor ? #socpharm Cause they need vendor to update app
SpitzStrategy:
Similar skepticism was applied to the Web 15 years ago — nobody will use it, it’s a fad, my software is good enough, etc. #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@CherylAnnBorne If you can add value & be the couple of apps that become used, then yes. #socpharm
richmeyer:
Checklist for apps Customer needs info on go, they are not at computer and they view app as real value #socpharm
richmeyer:
@CherylAnnBorne But 75% delete after one month #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
As smartphones become progressively more sophisticated they will do all that computers can do #socpharm
CherylAnnBorne:
@EileenOBrien GoMeals adds value, but will it be used? #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
RT @a0k: @EileenOBrien but @manhattanresear & #google show that over 65% of physicians have smartphones & 58% of them use in appt #socpharm
A0K:
#socpharm > Late 2009 #Google Health shows 75%+ of physicians have smartphones & 58% of them use in appt w/ patient
SpitzStrategy:
And as data plans become standard and not extra more and more folks will use smartphones, further driving demand and devolopment #socpharm
richmeyer:
First have to ask: Is our audience on mobile then ask can we provide REAL value that THEY want to use #socpharm
CherylAnnBorne:
RT @SpitzStrategy: Similar skepticism was applied to the Web 15 years ago — nobody will use it, it’s a fad, my software is good enough, etc. #socpharm
LO_22:
@eMarketer predicts a 300% increase in mobile ad spend through 2013 #socpharm” target=”_blank”>http://bit.ly/bkrKgT#socpharm
richmeyer:
I like Sanofi app for meals but it needs constant updating to stay relevant #socpharm
lisagualtieri:
Even 10 years ago RT @SpitzStrategy Similar skepticism was applied to the Web 15 years ago — nobody will use it, it’s a fad, etc. #socpharm
blausengroup:
RT @A0K: #socpharm > Late 2009 #Google Health shows 75%+ of physicians have smartphones & 58% of them use in appt w/ patient EileenOBrien: @CherylAnnBorne Think so/hope so. Perhaps @wendyblackburn can share some insight on @gomeals usage. #socpharm
CherylAnnBorne:
@richmeyer Wonder why GoMeals doesn?t have exercise tracker, med tracker, med reminder, glucose log? #socpharm
Malefeol:
RT @CherylAnnBorne: T1 Sanofi-Aventis gets social with Facebook and diabetes: http://t.co/CIYHXeyI like the mobi app #socpharm
richmeyer:
@EileenOBrien @a0k @EileenOBrien @manhattanresear Because connecting to the Web is so slow in Mobile #google #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
The real concern for pharma/healthcare in the mobile world is #privacy #socpharm
richmeyer:
@CherylAnnBorne because diabetics do not like to be reminded they have diabetes #socpharm
CherylAnnBorne:
GoMeals also has presence on Twitter http://bit.ly/bgjHNz Is it first “app” to have a Twitter account? #socpharm
A0K:
@blausengroup also, qualitative studies that show that patients are seeing #mobile use by HCP as increasingly positive #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
In order for a mobile tool to be valuable it needs to facilitate communication between the user and a resource #socpharm
CherylAnnBorne:
#socpharm Nielsen survey: most apps downloaders use daily for short time, variety of situationshttp://bit.ly/bft2ry
richmeyer:
Mobile is a volcano awaiting to erupt but speed has to get a lot faster #socpharm
A0K:
@richmeyer actually, connecting to the web on mobile isn’t slow at all. 3G and 4G make it quick. so do nicely built WAP sites #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Study showed consumers looking for med & refill reminders: http://bit.ly/aNreKh Opportunity for pharma. #socpharm
richmeyer:
@a0k Research shows consumers want broadband speeds. 3G is slow when you’re used to broadband #socpharm
lisagualtieri:
After meeting today, pondering how mobile can be used to help family caregivers to cancer patients – suggestions? #socpharm
blausengroup:
Yes RT @A0K: @blausengroup qualitative studies show that patients are seeing #mobile use by HCP as increasingly positive #socpharm
CherylAnnBorne:
@SpitzStrategy also fair balalnce — MLR doesn’t care about small form factor — 50% of realestate must be ISI, etc #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
My iPhone gives web access plenty fast most of the time. It’s the AT&T phone service that’s the problem
#socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
Mobile’s biggest limitation is small real estate, relatively tiny screens — that might change soon with projection technology #socpharm
CherylAnnBorne:
@SpitzStrategy pls explain projection technology #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
RT @lisagualtieri: Pondering how mobile can be used to help family caregivers to cancer patients – suggestions? #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
@CherylAnnBorne: Great point about fair balance — not enough room to place risk info leads to branded trouble #socpharm
mariansalzman:
RT @EileenOBrien: RT @lisagualtieri: Pondering how mobile can be used to help family caregivers to cancer patients – suggestions? #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
Projection technology will enable mobile users to literally create expanded screens on any nearby surface #socpharm
blausengroup:
@SpitzStrategy of course as everyone is aware the tablets also offer additional real estate for mobile apps #socpharm
mick02:
mobile site speed + technology capability is increasing fast enough to kill the future of apps. #socpharm
foxepractice:
But look at the trending. 50% of cell traffic from Apps (ATT) @EileenOBrien Pew study shows few people use apps #socpharm http://ow.ly/2Ispr
SpitzStrategy:
@blausengroup: Excellent point! We should consider tablets mobile devices too, expanding possibilities exponentially #socpharm
richmeyer:
@EileenOBrien Yes daily tip on how to deal with ups and downs of cancer patietns and keeping their hopes up #socpharm
firebelly:
why not use reminders for medication via mobile @EileenOBrien #socpharm
CherylAnnBorne:
@lisagualtieri location-based – Tx ctr, pharmacy. Symptom tracker. Med reminder. Calendar for doc appts List of meds / dosages #socpharm
RobRenjilian:
RT @SpitzStrategy: In order for a mobile tool to be valuable it needs to facilitate communication between the user and a resource #socpharm
mkmackey:
@EileenOBrien @lisagualtieri patient education at the point of care along with access to personal health records aid caregivers #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@lisagualtieri First: listen/ask cancer caregivers what they need/what will help. Find what’s missing & that’s ur opportunity. #socpharm
CherylAnnBorne:
Excellent POV RT @mick02: mobile site speed + technology capability is increasing fast enough to kill the future of apps. #socpharm
lisagualtieri:
Interested in how the situational awareness and context with mobile can add value, potential to overcome speed/size limitations #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
BlackBerry just stepped in the long line of tablet makers http://bit.ly/btdMnJ showing an inevitable trend toward new platforms #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
Cloud computing is the future, as software will be stored on servers, not devices — mobile apps will be obsolete in a few years #socpharm
RebeccaLechner:
@lisagualtieri Med refills and questions to docs, symptom trackers. #socpharm
foxepractice:
@mick02 Still haven’t seen a web app that can beat the user interface of an usual iPhone app #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
Geolocation could prove essential for healthcare — connecting patients with caregivers, providers, and resources nearby #socpharm
mkmackey:
I saw a photo today of a father reading to his child from a smartphone. Think of what future generations will experience #socpharm
richmeyer:
Real opp is for mobile devices to interact with med devices and send info to doctor or program to monitor health #socpharm
richmeyer:
Intel is betting the ranch on medical devices for future #socpharm
Julian_Bond:
RT @CherylAnnBorne: Excellent POV RT @mick02: mobile site speed + technology capability is increasing fast enough to kill the future of apps. #socpharm
CherylAnnBorne:
$500! RT @SpitzStrategy: BlackBerry just stepped in the long line of tablet makers http://bit.ly/btdMnJshowing an inevitable tren #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
If we can figure out the #privacy hurdle then mobile devices could offer astonishing resources for patients & those who help them #socpharm
CherylAnnBorne:
AGREE RT @richmeyer: Real opp is for mobile devices to interact with med devices and send info to doctor or program to monitor hea #socpharm
Julian_Bond:
RT @SpitzStrategy Mobile’s biggest limitation is small real estate, relatively tiny screens — might change soon w/projection tech #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
@richmeyer Health monitoring and even diagnostics is huge for mobile, but who will regulate the tools and communication? #socpharm
mick02:
@foxepractice I agree about interface – but the web is better collaboration … which will continue to grow. #socpharm
foxepractice:
Cloud computing still needs a user interface. App or Web. SalesForce says App right now @SpitzStrategy #socpharm
CherylAnnBorne:
I have seen mobile devices used to monitor fetal heart rates, blood glucose readings, and more, then transmit to HCP #socpharm
richmeyer:
@SpitzStrategy NONSENSE It’s going to take a long time to ensure connectivity before ANYONE relies on CLOUD computing #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
Who is best positioned to provide patients with the mobile tools they need? Pharma? Third parties? Advocacy organizations? #socpharm
mkmackey:
Perspectives in mobile health applications are regularly posted under #mhealth in case you haven’t seen #socpharm
CherylAnnBorne:
Will mobile phones be considered medical devices? #socpharm
richmeyer:
@SpitzStrategy Tools themselves do not need to regulated think blood pressure monitors that you can purchase at any store #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
@foxepractice: As smartphones get smarter so will their onboard UI #socpharm
foxepractice:
@mick02 Yes, but look at the user generated sites like Yelp etc. Interaction/traffic jumped when they launched mobile apps. #socpharm
jodyms:
RT @mkmackey: Perspectives in mobile health applications are regularly posted under #mhealth in case you haven’t seen #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
@richmeyer True, most monitoring devices are simple, but some are more complex and fall squarely nto the medical device category #socpharm
Julian_Bond:
Agreed! RT @richmeyer Mobile is a volcano awaiting to erupt but speed has to get a lot faster #socpharm
lisagualtieri:
Thanks for ideas, have you seen examples? @EileenOBrien, @RebeccaLechner, @mkmackey, @CherylAnnBorne, @firebelly, @richmeyer #socpharm
foxepractice:
@CherylAnnBorne When loaded with certain medical apps – Yes. The software will be regulated. #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
@jodyms Two great #mhealth sites are http://www.imedicalapps.com/ andhttp://mobihealthnews.com/ #socpharm
mick02:
@CherylAnnBorne great Q! (mobile phones as med devices?) #socpharm
CherylAnnBorne:
iPhone Blood Glucose Meter: Now Attaches Permanently To Your Phone #socpharm
foxepractice:
RT @Julian_Bond: Agreed! RT @richmeyer Mobile is a volcano awaiting to erupt but speed has to get a lot faster #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
@richmeyer And what about mobile tools for physicians? What standards are and should be applied to assure safety? #socpharm
foxepractice:
Personally, I feel the speed is pretty good. But certain developers/apps needs to mature on this new platform #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@SpitzStrategy Pharma partnering with advocacy organizations is my vote. #socpharm
richmeyer:
@SpitzStrategy The FDA does not want them to be interruptive they want them to be only diagnostic #socpharm
CherylAnnBorne:
@lisagualtieri have seen some examples — I have built mobi apps in the past #socpharm
CherylAnnBorne:
FDA nightmare RT @foxepractice: @CherylAnnBorne When loaded with certain medical apps – Yes. The software will be regulated. #socpharm
mkmackey:
@lisagualtieri FD I tw @blausengroup but Blausen Human Atlas is a really nice point of care apphttp://youtu.be/WjTG9BptaDo #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
@EileenOBrien: Pharma has money but a bad rep; advocacy has a great rep but no money; combine them to deliver value to consumers #socpharm
CherylAnnBorne:
Sanofi Aventis iPhone blood glucose monitor is expected to cost around $80 and has yet to clear the FDA #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
@richmeyer Even diagnostic tools can be dangerous #socpharm
CherylAnnBorne:
RT @EileenOBrien: Pharma has money but bad rep; advocacy has a great rep but no money; combine them 2 deliver value 2 consumers #socpharm
richmeyer:
@SpitzStrategy This is true but I have seen comps hand out defective stethascopes and BP devices #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
The other issue here is pharma branded or unbranded content for mobile resources? Hardly any in former category so far #socpharm
ibotretweet:
RT @richmeyer2010@SpitzStrategy This is true but I have seen comps hand out defective stethascopes and BP devices #socpharm: @SpitzStr…
CherylAnnBorne:
T2 Future bright for mobile advertising, not the ‘apps’ #socpharm http://bit.ly/bezpzO
EileenOBrien:
@SpitzStrategy Exactly, we recommend pharma partner with “Trust Agent” & it’s a win all around. #socpharm
Julian_Bond:
@CherylAnnBorne: iPhone Blood Glucose Meter: Now Attaches Permanently To Your Phone #socpharm
RobRenjilian:
@SpitzStrategy The limitation is screen size limits branded communications…w/b more unbranded IMHO #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
Few if any examples yet of advocacy groups partnering with pharma to create effective mobile tools #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
@RobRenjilian Screen size problem is already being addressed with iPad and tablets, plus “projection” technology in the works #socpharm
foxepractice:
RT @mkmackey: @lisagualtieri FD I tw @blausengroup but Blausen Human Atlas is a really nice point of http://youtu.be/WjTG9BptaDo #socpharm
lisagualtieri:
What did the mobile apps do, @CherylAnnBorne? #socpharm
CherylAnnBorne:
Opportunity! RT @SpitzStrategy: Few if any examples yet of advocacy groups partnering with pharma to create effective mobile tools #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
Here’s a wild presentation about projection and “meta” technology to expand mobile capabilitieshttp://bit.ly/aIrSdY #socpharm
CherylAnnBorne:
Are mobi apps a good investment or is money better spent on mobi ads? #socpharm
CherylAnnBorne:
RT @SpitzStrategy: Here’s a wild presentation about projection and “meta” technology to expand mobile capabil http://bit.ly/aIrSdY #socpharm
RobRenjilian:
@SpitzStrategy Projection and iPads, still not for masses, but agreed that it is coming. Pharma will lag if history is clear sign #socpharm
foxepractice:
@CherylAnnBorne The mobile ads experience is pretty poor still. #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
Here’s a superb POV just released on taking a more practical approach to #mhealthhttp://bit.ly/9zeWQq #socpharm
foxepractice:
@RobRenjilian iPad is definitely for the masses. Projection, not so much. #socpharm
CherylAnnBorne:
@foxepractice Pew Internet Rise of Apps Culture http://bit.ly/bft2ry 8 in 10 adults are cell phone users #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
@RobRenjilian Agreed, pharma will ALWAYS lag due to regulatory constraints — thus my “branded vs unbranded” question #socpharm
CherylAnnBorne:
Bubye telemkt! Pew: ~1/4 of adults live in household that has cell phone but no landline #socpharm
RobRenjilian:
@SpitzStrategy Great pharma/advocacy partnership built on insights: www.text4baby.org #socpharm
CherylAnnBorne:
@foxepractice have you seen iAds for Nissan Leaf? Awesome experience! #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
Predication: In 10 years the “computer” will no longer exist, supplanted by what we consider a mobile device with peripherals #socpharm
RobRenjilian:
@SpitzStrategy More than regulatory constraints..ROI and proved approach just as constraining #socpharm
CherylAnnBorne:
RT @RobRenjilian: @SpitzStrategy Great pharma/advocacy partnership built on insights: www.text4baby.org #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Love it! RT @blausengroup: RT @iMedicalApps: 100 year old doctor says he would be lost without his iPhone http://bit.ly/a6lypt #socpharm
RobRenjilian:
@foxepractice Do you happen to know the iPad current penetration into the market? #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
@RobRenjilian: Text4Baby worked, but a similar campaign for oral contraceptives fell flat #socpharm
CherylAnnBorne:
@foxepractice Borrell report ~66% of the online adv spend will be served by mobile device by 2015 #socpharm
foxepractice:
@CherylAnnBorne Yes, agreed! That’s the future. Was referring to campaigns we’ve tested with Admob (google). Lousy results. #socpharm
foxepractice:
@RobRenjilian How do you define the market?
#socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
#EileenOBrien We need more centenarian physicians with mobile savvy! #socpharm
CherylAnnBorne:
Thanks for excellent convo! Lots of ideas and links shared. Eileen Obrien has transcript avail #socpharm
foxepractice:
Is the iPad a “slate computer”, net book, pc? The masses are definitely picking it up. From toddlers to 90+. Computer made easy. #socpharm
RobRenjilian:
@foxepractice Good question. Women 45+ for one brand I work on. Agree that iPad is huge, BTW. Just echoing daily discussions #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
@CherylAnnBorne Great job & thanks for guest moderating. I’ll let everyone know when transcript is posted tomorrow. #socpharm
SpitzStrategy:
Thanks to @CherylAnnBorne for leading a great #socpharm tweetup!
foxepractice:
@SpitzStrategy Thanks for that TED video about projection tech. Looks cool. #socpharm
EileenOBrien:
Next week is last Wed of the quarter so #socpharm will be in the morning, 8 am ET. Let me know if you have any topic ideas.
SpitzStrategy:
@foxepractice The iPad is a game-changer — it bridges the gap between conventional notions of “computer” and “smartphone” #socpharm
CherylAnnBorne:
It was a pleasure being the guest moderator of #socpharm. Feel free to continue the convo. I am signing off. Thank you & good night!
mkmackey:
Thanks.. enjoyed! #socpharm @CherylAnnBorne @EileenOBrien @foxepractice @SpitzStrategy et all

